reply to post by LobeDethFaurt
Sarcasm? A little, maybe. Sure, I don't think my inaction on some levels is equal to murdering someone, as you implied. There're a million (billion,
trillion,...) accounts where could have acted to reduce suffering and harm to others elsewhere in the world. But either because of apathy or vanity or
because I did not want to risk my own life, I decided to rest on my laurels. I did not push myself to be a better person, I just cast it out of my
I'm not out in the world saving starving people or rescuing them from certain death. I'm not performing a job that saves lives. I'm not risking it all
for the service of others. I don't put others first. I don't protest bad deeds by our leaders; unless you count ranting to myself as protesting. I
don't chase after evil to limit its reach. See, by all measures of what's good, I am the least active and most likely to sit back and mourn as evil
rapes the world.
I do have mountains of respect for people who do help others. I admire them. They're courageous and are the reason many people can actually sleep well
and safe at night. Contrastingly, I do not respect people who hurt others. I do not admire them. Instead I feel repulsed.
All the same, I don't think I am the same thing as a murderer. One might say that I am like a robber. Through inaction, I rob others of a good and
Remember, I don't believe in good or evil in a religious way. I believe in it in a logical way. Good is whatever makes the world better. Evil is
whatever makes it worse. It's rational.
By my own judgment, I am not good. But I am not as evil as I could be. Obviously, I don't wnat to be evil. But by trying not to be a part of this
world, I, by inaction, strengthen evil.
Don't think for even a brief moment that just because I perceive good and evil logically that I don't have (sometimes) strong emotions or convictions
about it. That'd be incorrect.
As for religion, it can sometimes make us do good things, but what I don't like about it is that the REASON people do good on a religious basis is too
irrational in my view. So the REASON you saved that boy is because you believe in God and in Jesus Christ and your will is to serve God and try to be
as christ-like as you can. Where I don't like this is it's not logical. See, the logical reason to save the boy is to preserve his life and his
family's heritage. If nobody is saved then people die and this has an impact on our civilization and on our genetic diversity and so on. We act to
help others because in communities this makes us stronger and maximizes our defenses against evil.
Now, some people have tried to sabotage the whole logic thing by asking "Well, what if there was a boy trapped in a burning building and any rescue
attempt is almost certain death for the 20 fireman that have to go in to make the attempt? Isn't it logical to just let him die since 20 fireman and
their expensive equipment is more important than 1 boy?" But here's the thing, when there's a boy trapped in a building, the 20 fireman that go into
save him do not consider the situation completely logically. It's instinct. They try to survive, but saving the boy is their priority. Logic only
plays a role in their efforts to save him, it does not stop them from attempting to save him. This doesn't break logic, it just means sometimes people
don't use it fully because instinct takes priority.
There's also the issue that this effort to sabotage logic has limits. It's very hypothetical and reliant on exceptional situations. For example,
policeman will not risk everything to save others. They actually have policies that force them to act cautiously. Rescuers also will not throw
everything away to save people (including children) who're caught in a hurricane. Instead they stand down until the weather conditions are fair enough
for them to travel to the storm ravaged area.
What I'm really saying is there's a logical reason for altruism. Altruism can sometimes lead to a situation where 20 fireman die trying to rescue a
boy from a burning building. But altruism most often leads instead to a stronger society that's much better able to defend against the forces of
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