Originally posted by rickymouse
I have a funny hunch that a lot of people who downloaded the program are going to get put on a naughty list. I'd never be stupid enough to download
that. I am sure Homeland Security and the FBI has every IP address that downloaded it.
I was hoping that the government would take it down. We don't need kids getting access to guns that could blow up in their faces. I bet there will
be someone watching the firing pin sales. The places that sell the pins may be FBI plants. Most handguns are regulated in the states, it is a felony
to have a handgun even if it is made of plastic without the proper paperwork, Some antique guns are excluded from these laws.
I think I may be reading a few too many conspiracy theories
I don't mean this in an insulting way, so please don't take it that way, but it appears you are incredibly ignorant about nearly everything you
discuss in your post.
First of all, keeping a list of people who downloaded CAD files for firearms is a ridiculous idea. Do you realize there are already thousands of CAD
files for tons of different firearms available for download? The files that would allow you to have an automated mill make firearm components just
like a 3D printer can. Put simply, the people who downloaded the plans are not new, unique, or illegal. They are doing something that's been done
probably millions of times already, downloading CAD files for firearms, this is nothing new.
Second off, your talk of kids getting guns that will explode in their face is totally irrelevant. How do you suppose kids are going to get access to a
3D printer, be skilled enough to import the files onto a computer, set up the printer, etc in order to actually produce the gun?
How do you suppose they are going to get ammunition? You do realize you must be 18+ to buy ammo in the states, right? If kids have access to guns,
they can ALREADY produce zip guns (shoddily constructed home made guns) quite easily. A steel pipe, a spring, and a nail bolted up with some wood
makes a very cheap and deadly shotgun, and you don't need any fancy 3D printer, or the engineering knowledge required to bring the firearm from files
to actual object.
There will also be nobody watching firing pin sales. As someone else mentioned, the firing pin could be a nail. Or basically any bit of thin metal.
Impossible to track or trace. Even if you use a real actual firing pin from a real firearm, there is no way to track people doing so. No ID is
required to buy a firing pin, it's one of many common components to firearms, the buying and selling of them wouldn't raise an eyebrow with
You are also completely wrong on the laws about handguns. There are a few cities that have banned handguns, but the vast majority of places allow
handgun ownership, and there are zero federal laws against owning pistols, nor is there any sort of paperwork or registration that the owner has to
deal with, aside from the standard background check at purchase, assuming he was buying it from a dealer. If a pistol is purchased from a private
party (another regular person) there is zero paperwork, registration, etc etc attached to the sale or ownership of that pistol.
I don't know why you said "even if it is made of plastic" there are tons of real, legal, commercial firearms made of various polymers, under the
eyes of the law they are absolutely no different in any way from a pistol made completely of steel or titanium.
I agree with you on one thing though, I do think you have been reading too many conspiracy theories, and not enough factual information about anything
you are discussing.
Anyway, with regard to the whole issue of 3D printed firearms, I think it's being blown way out of proportion. Take this gun for example, it fires a
weak round, and will likely fail very soon. A plastic barrel will NOT last any great length of time. While everyone has heard of the various plastics
that are "xxx times as strong as steel" or whatever they say, it's actually very misleading. While some low-power rounds such as the .22lr can be
fired from plastic barrels reinforced with metal or carbon fiber, for a gun that's actually useful for anything you NEED a steel barrel.
People can ALREADY make cheap, untraceable, deadly firearms with simple tools from the hardware store. So NOTHING changes with 3D printed guns. It's
more costly and difficult to 3D print the gun than building it from simple parts would be.
And the whole idea that this ONE batch of CAD files is somehow so important to be scrubbed is ridiculous. Anyone familiar with drafting software could
draw up such plants. I could do it, I know others who could. Overall, this 3d printed gun thing is NOT anywhere near as groundbreaking or important as
everyone makes it out to be. It's a novelty type idea, nothing that would seriously effect or change anything anytime soon. Please prove me wrong if