Jon Stewart - The Big Benghazi Theory

I couldn't wait to post this video. In it, Jon Stewart exposes a phenomena that I've talked about here on ATS on numerous occasions.

For about the last 4 yrs., or every since President Obama got elected to office, I've noticed that almost every time the Tea Party/Republican establishment comes out accusing the Democrats and/or the Obama administration of doing something corrupt, it turns out that what they're actually doing is accusing the other guy of the exact thing that they themselves are doing.

It's ironic as hell because as it turns out, if you want to know what the TP/GOP is doing, just listen to what they're accusing their opponents of doing and there you have it in a nutshell.

Time and time again, I've sat and listened as they accused the democrats of everything from voter fraud to Benghazi cover-up just to discover, (when the truth finally comes out) that they are actually describing their own actions. Go figure!

Apparently, once they devise their course of action and realize just how diabolical it is, they convince themselves that the other guy must be doing it too. When the repercussions of their actions are realized, (everything from actual voter fraud to dead diplomats) they begin to manufacture scenarios attempting to place the blame on their opponents when nothing could be further from the truth.

Inevitably, when the final truth comes out all they have done is to expose themselves for what they've done and for who they really are. If it weren't for the seriousness of their actions and the people they hurt, it would be funny just to sit back and watch.

IMO, they are on an undeniable path to total self destruction. What we have to do, is to not let them take the rest of us down too.

You have to watch this video right up to the end or you'll miss the punch line. Enjoy!



Edit to add; Sorry, I posted the wrong video but this is the right one.

You do realize that the Daily show is part comedy, part satire and based loosely on news, right? It's not commentary to focus on realistic and true analysis of the news events in a meaningful way.

Steven Colbert and the Colbert Report is another example and he's funny as can be. Right half the time too....but as much by coincidence to his comedy side as any true intent to report accurate issues.

Umm... Kinda reaching on sourcing to make the deaths of Americans in Benghazi a partisan issue, isn't it?

reply to post by Flatfish


So, nobody died at Benghazi? That is just a theory? Nobody knew the attack was coming? Hillary Clinton did not say, "What difference does it make?"

ETA: By the way, those are all check YES or check NO questions...answer the questions in the appropriate fashion and then we can and will gladly proceed to any other dialogue...

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


Yes I do realize those things but truth be told and more often than not, Jon Stewart will have more truthful content in his stories than most any of the MSM sources.

Also, on accident, I posted the wrong video which was a short version that didn't include the punch line, but the edited version does.

reply to post by Flatfish


I believe that both parties are guilty of cowardice, both Bush and Obama are equally guilty for cover ups and war crimes they helped ruin this country.

As much as Conservatives and Republicans try to politicize this, it doesn't change the fact that this isn't the first time one of our embassies has been attacked and this is not the first time embassy staff have died as a result of a terrorist attack.

It was a tragic even that hopefully will not happen again. But as with the re-occurring theme with Republicans, they will most likely try to come up with more conspiracy theories to try and make this event the worst attack against the U.S. in it's history.

Also I would not be surprised to see more "Whistle-Blowers" call into the Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity shows regarding the whole Benghazi "Cover up"

How convenient huh? As soon as Republicans decide to bring this up again the whistle-blowers start coming out in droves.

Originally posted by totallackey
reply to post by Flatfish

 

So, nobody died at Benghazi? That is just a theory? Nobody knew the attack was coming? Hillary Clinton did not say, "What difference does it make?"

ETA: By the way, those are all check YES or check NO questions...answer the questions in the appropriate fashion and then we can and will gladly proceed to any other dialogue...

Yes people died at Benghazi, no it's not a theory, not sure yet who knew what or when yet and yes Hillary said that.

I hope you're satisfied that I answered your questions and maybe now you could answer mine.

Did the GOP vote to cut funding for security at foreign diplomatic outposts? Did they do this to make the President look weak prior to an election? Has almost every GOP initiative been directed with the same political goal of making him look weak every since Obama was elected? Was their number one goal to make him a one term President? Who is really to blame for those dead diplomats?

reply to post by Flatfish

Well, when anyone can call the demand for a proper investigation a partisan thing? I have no idea where that thinking even comes from. I don't fault Stewart. After all, as we agree, his primary role is comedy and political satire based on current events. He's decent ..if you like the side he does it from. I don't, but I don't say anything bad about that. I take the source for the intent.

You're not taking this as satire though..and you are making the direct point that calling for a full, open and fair investigation into the destruction of a US Diplomatic mission and 4 good Americans is a partisan issue.

Investigation of stains on a blue dress from the shenanigans of two consenting adults...was far more partisan than anything. Investigating the failure to properly secure a US facility overseas that resulted in deaths of US people who were calling for help to save their lives? That is American and proper. Not right or left. I'd expect everyone to generally agree there...but that is often too much in this hyper-polarized nation we have today.

I love Jon Stewart. Even though we tend to be on opposite sides of the political game, he is a comedic genius. However, after watching the video I got the sinking feeling that not even he believed that the prez is innocent. He knows who butters his bread. You will never hear him say dems wrong, repubs right. But this video was weak sauce. He knows its bad. My 2 cents

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


Maybe you just don't see the irony here.

Could it be that the single biggest cause for those deaths was the fact that the GOP voted to cut security funding for our foreign embassies? Could it be that now that they realized the repercussions of their actions, they are desperate to place the blame elsewhere? Is that why we've had so many hearings over four deaths at one foreign outpost vs. 3 hearings over 13 deaths at 56 foreign outpost during the Bush presidency? (I think I got those numbers right)

These occurrences may not be factually incriminating, at least not yet. But at the very least, they're laughable and IMO, more plausible than the theories being put forth by the GOP establishment.

Originally posted by riffraff
I love Jon Stewart. Even though we tend to be on opposite sides of the political game, he is a comedic genius. However, after watching the video I got the sinking feeling that not even he believed that the prez is innocent. He knows who butters his bread. You will never hear him say dems wrong, repubs right. But this video was weak sauce. He knows its bad. My 2 cents

I too love Jon Stewart but I got to tell you that you have it wrong when you say that he never rips the democrats, that's one of the things I like so much about him. He will call it like he sees it regardless of which political party is involved. It just so happens that the GOP representatives are much better at making a mockery of themselves and their party providing an endless source of material.

Here's just a few examples I was able to quickly search out for your enjoyment.

reply to post by Flatfish
Thank you OP for the laughter it is the best medicine...In my younger years I started out as a Republican, then as I aged and got a little wiser I chose to vote as a democrat...then I became a fence straddler and stayed in a hazy realm of confusion and quit voting and registering...now I approach my fifties and I am just an observer....Its humor that clarifies and exposes the truth in many things ....thanks for sharing

reply to post by Flatfish


Wait a minute...

So you don't believe a Benghazi cover up is real? So much so no one should be held accountable?

Also, is it news that both republicans and democrats always attack AND blame each other?

Thanks Jon Stewart?

reply to post by Flatfish

Yes people died at Benghazi, no it's not a theory, not sure yet who knew what or when yet and yes Hillary said that.

Thank you for answering the questions.

I hope you're satisfied that I answered your questions and maybe now you could answer mine.

Satisfaction was not my goal. Honesty is.

Did the GOP vote to cut funding for security at foreign diplomatic outposts?

Unsure, but it would not surprise me if they did.

Did they do this to make the President look weak prior to an election?

No. The President does not need help in order to look weak.

Has almost every GOP initiative been directed with the same political goal of making him look weak every since Obama was elected? Was their number one goal to make him a one term President? Who is really to blame for those dead diplomats?

The President has the ultimate authority when it comes to protecting the lives of every American. He is the Commander-in-Chief and he calls the shots when it comes time to call on the military. The buck stops there...

Bottom line for me is this...

We are way to involved in foreign affairs period...

All you are backhandedly doing is chirping for one form of totalitarian rule over another...you love communism/fascism/socialism...you think all of these are the cat's meow...

Originally posted by muse7
Also I would not be surprised to see more "Whistle-Blowers" call into the Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity shows regarding the whole Benghazi "Cover up"

How convenient huh? As soon as Republicans decide to bring this up again the whistle-blowers start coming out in droves.

Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!

Yeah man, this whole affair is just so hilarious! Whistle blowers? More like smihtle blowers? AMIRITE?!

It's not like the compound was already under threat, had already been attacked, had already requested security only to be denied, and had the entire attack filmed via a drone and broadcasted live for all the leaders to see only to have said leaders lie to the world and blame it on Libyan Muslim protesters who were mad about some stupid Youtube movie, so mad they attacked the compound. This very same lie lead to actual Muslim protests turned to riots all across the Middle East resulting in more embassies being attack.

But yeah, HA! HA! Republicans.... silly gooses.

Originally posted by Swills
reply to post by Flatfish

 

Wait a minute...

So you don't believe a Benghazi cover up is real? So much so no one should be held accountable?

Also, is it news that both republicans and democrats always attack AND blame each other?

Thanks Jon Stewart?

The only Benghazi cover up that I believe in at this time is the one regarding the fact that the GOP probably knew that under-funding foreign outposts would lead to some really bad occurrences, they just didn't think it would lead to anyone getting killed. Now that it has, they trying to distract us from the real cause.

Yes, I think someone should be held accountable. More precisely, I think that the TP/GOP establishment as a whole should be held accountable and they will. It just won't happen in Congress or the courts, it's going to happen in the voting booth.

Originally posted by totallackey

The President has the ultimate authority when it comes to protecting the lives of every American. He is the Commander-in-Chief and he calls the shots when it comes time to call on the military. The buck stops there...

Oh yeah, we all know that's true! Like closing GITMO wouldn't help protect American lives by ending one of the biggest drivers of terroristic attitudes towards America. Of course Congress wouldn't have it and as it turns out, he's NOT the "ultimate authority."

Or, like conducting proper inspections of offshore oil platforms wouldn't help to protect American lives by preventing catastrophic blow-outs and pollution. Of course, our 'cut everything to the bone" Congress wouldn't have that either. etc......

If we had elected a dictator, I might agree with your premiss of "ultimate authority," but that's not the case and I doubt that he actually has the ultimate authority over very few things. Hell, every time he issues an executive order, the GOP screams like he changed his name to Hitler. Ultimate authority, my ass!

The truth of the matter is that in the rare event that democrats get something passed through both houses of Congress, the republicans just pass a new bill to cut the funding of the original program so that it never happens. You know the old saying; "There's more than one way to skin a cat."

Originally posted by totallackey

Bottom line for me is this...

We are way to involved in foreign affairs period...

All you are backhandedly doing is chirping for one form of totalitarian rule over another...you love communism/fascism/socialism...you think all of these are the cat's meow...

Wrong again! What I really love is ice cream, fishing and spending time with my grandkids.

reply to post by Flatfish

If you would think I'd want to see anyone get a pass on this, who may bear responsibility? You'd definitely be reading me wrong. If there are individual republicans who, by action or omission of action, led to the security failures of the months leading up to this? They should stand to account before the nation, Iran/Contra Style, right along side the names and faces we do know of. No exceptions on this one. It's too serious to play politics with.

In the 1980s, the US Embassy in Beirut, Lebanon was bombed not once, but twice. Destroyed once, then moved. If I could, I'd see those responsible there held to account as well...but, alas, we're pushing 30 years and those who did it, likely aren't around at this point to answer for it. However, the LACK of accounting for how that happened and the failures which allowed it, are likely part of what led to the Marine Barracks bombing which ended U.S. Involvement in Lebanon.

We're doing it again....and again, nothing is learned. Not a thing. If we take fatal hits, especially to soft and unarmed targets like Diplomatic Missions and do nothing? We literally encourage and invite worse. It's happened before. I just pray we don't see it happen again from this one, into the future. It sure wouldn't be without precedent though, and that is why this matters, among other more obvious reasons.

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


And I couldn't agree more, especially the fact that we seem to keep doing it again and again.

I don't know how factual it was, but the other night I was watching an episode of "Locked Up Abroad" entitled "The Real Argo" in which they told the story about the Iran hostage ordeal. According to that show, when the Embassy was first being over-run, there was only one Marine on duty to protect the diplomats inside. I never heard that before and I was surprised to hear it, even just on a t.v. documentary.

Nothing I hate more than making the same mistakes over and over again.