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posted on May, 10 2013 @ 12:21 PM
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This is why is say Mergers of Nazis and far left, you know Stalin was obsessed with meteors, etc., that one place where there was that unexplained huge radioactive explosion, etc., remember that from documentary, as was Hitler with occult...Why? Psychiatrists (elites) rapng the herbs and tree roots of South America, under the pretense of using brain hallucinations to cure (another docu they did experiments, in 60s and still on going), and then,

Only a FEW and I mean a small few, feminist do watch dog work in genetics ethics, such as the Forced Sterilization and genetic experiments on women in Bangladesh. What WE don't hear about in west...because see using poor women in nations where they are treated worse than maggots, they are marginalized and invisible so...easy to do,

Dworkin, Mary Daly, did see into these dangers, they are passed. There are few of us left, these Women Judas you see in gov today are in no way in HELL feminists, they ate women with dicks, it goes beyond internalized misogyny, these are BUTCHERS,

And they have no qualms in throwing babies into ovens. None whatsoever...but now, hers the other thing that Many didn't pay attention to...they hate the Earth as well. They have no regard for Water, spring of life, nor Green, trees, etc., they are Desert lovers, meaning,

Every where they tread, they leave in place cement desolation and iron ore towers. They kill all the GREEN as well...Every time. Mary began to see in her writings that they were Necro Phallic, meaning Death Worshippers,

They worship DEATH.

So, of course, they HATE the WOMB, UTEurus, the well of LIFE.

They are two sides of a coin...one side destroys by demonizing the womb, the other, by rape and ripping the womb apart..but they are the one and same,

SERPENT.




posted on May, 10 2013 @ 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by Divine Strake
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it's as though she thinks the "old men" are the victims here? This has to be one of the most backward of mentalities I've seen from an attorney.


Compared to what? Other attorneys? Not much to go by.

It's England. While the culture is a bit different there, kids are kids and pervs are pervs the world over. What gets me is that England seems to done with even TRYING to hide their dirty little secrets. They don't see them as dirty anymore. That was obvious by the Barristers statements. I don't think this modification of the law is going to go far. The backlash from the rest of world is going to hit 'em pretty hard, not to mention vigilante justice from pissed off parents.

So I guess the only question that remains is, will they give a sh!t.




edit on 10-5-2013 by Taupin Desciple because: Damn Lawyers



posted on May, 10 2013 @ 12:45 PM
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Sorry for long posts but this is an, no, THE issue I've been obsessed with, not sure why, since childhood...my entire life I've seen or have had experiences leading me to research this...

RELEVANCY here, is that, ok this woman in UK, it's not that she cares about consent, hardly, and this move to LEGALIZE pedophilia (and it's huge in the socialist left coming out of Europe and Canada, fact, talking think tanks, elites, Academia here, PSYCHIATRY is a big one) and Demonize or TRIVIALIZE the HARMS done to Victims, is about an AGENDA...THAT GOES BEYOND JUST SEX.

The CLUE here, is that this MATRIX is set up, from what I can tell this far, to create environment conducive to child abuse especially rape, sadism, torture etc. Then, to play like good cop/bad cop type of thing...to take These children who obviously will be messed up in the head AND Genetically harmed (brain studies prove trauma chnpanges brain chemistry, etc how much passed down genetically I don't know but common sense would say A lot) anyway

Then they get these children, or adult survivors, in so called "therapies" where they drug them and MONITOR THEM to see how effective the drugs are in creating a ZOMBIE like human that is completely without will, yes a Monarch slave type of thing,

But also, a perfect Soldier. One who will obey, kill, even their own flesh, at a drop of a finger snap. With absolutely no wincing, etc.,remorse, Conscioisness or self awareness whatsoever.

That's what I think they are after, think Milgrams experiment but on a much larger grander scale...and even, slaves who when the elites say, off yourselves as resources are limited,

They'll do it, without a thought.

The one thing these engineers have in common, is the hatred of FREE WILL, they are Obsessed with destroying free will and replacing it with altars of themselves. One thing that stands in their way is maternal love, why they hate it, proof of This now, is in the theories of Kollantai, Soviet Russia. Also the EXPERIMENTS of children born and abandoned in Soviet Romania, etc. here you have entire generation of emotionally detached children...WHY? They KNEW what they were doing, and Romania not the only place they did these experiments, so you have to question what is their motive? There are patterns to the treatments, which are NOT treatments but further torture of sex abuse victims, within the psychiatric fields/mental health. You really see Glaring evidence of this in court ordered abuses and GAL/mental health Silencers of children in custody battles (this is epidemic problem) and not just children,

More and more we are seeing Gov, demanding raoe victims, be labeled mental and RE Educated to Like and even accept this twisted normalcy of bondage...(BDSM cults on steroids)...WHY?

See its not ONLY that they want a taboo free society, if That were the case they would just let the victims decay away slowly...oh no,

First they want to mass create Victims THEN on top of that, they want to RE Educate them, aka brainwash, chemically Lobotomize, then when they snap and they often do, why prisons are full of these children, then they torture them some more and use THOSE studies back To universities that study beh mod and criminal WITH...ready for this

GENETICS.

CO University is one such place...so, where the theater shooter attended,

SO,

What's Really going on with these douchebags in high office????

There's an AGENDA, no doubt about it.



posted on May, 10 2013 @ 12:46 PM
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As a former dirty young man and now a rapidly aging dirtier old man I can speak with some experience that if an old human wants to boink a silly, snot nosed 13 year old then a wire or three is crossed up there... but every situation is different.

If a 13 year old wants a smelly old person then a few wires are crossed there, too. But brain wiring seems to be most always short circuiting.

I remember being threatened with statutory rape charges when I was sixteen (and a newly minted ex-virgin) for seeing my first gf who was an old hand at the sex game at fourteen... looking back I'd say most folks should wait 'till they're 30 and she had obviously, in retrospect, been abused... but human sexuality being what it is, perfect situations ain't gonna ever happen... but exploitation of anyone, for anything, is a bad thing.

Legislation of natural (and ofttimes unnatural) urges is a grey area that needs very careful application with enough leeway to accommodate various situations. I'd say let the judges do their jobs but then we get judges like this one... sigh.



posted on May, 10 2013 @ 12:55 PM
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this disgusts me to my core.. if anything, lowering the age is just a ploy for all the pedophiles in high places to legally get away with their perversion.



posted on May, 10 2013 @ 01:39 PM
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how does Lauryn Hill get sent to corrective classes for speaking on the music industry, yet this lady does not get any sort of punishment? this is one of the most nasty lines of thinking I can conceive. It makes a lot of sense to lower the age of consent so the perveted old men can stop receiving punishments at the expense of young children...I smell a scandal cooking.



posted on May, 10 2013 @ 03:18 PM
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I wondered when pedos would be next to be accepted along with homos.

guess it is beginning to happen in my lifetime.




posted on May, 10 2013 @ 03:34 PM
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S&F
Most YOUNG adolescents are intimidated by adults and taught to obey authorities. Rebellion begins a little later. Many times the adults they interact with are also authority figures, teachers, doctors, mentors, law enforcement, people in positions of power over them. The young person feels confused, afraid even if they seem willing, they may think they should "please someone", do be accepted and liked. Or if they tell anyone they will be told "oh they didn't mean anything sexual, and feel ridiculed.

This betrayal will affect these young adults for many years of their lives, feeling the only worth they have is sexual, and feel that the only acceptance they can expect is thru their sexuality. Sure... what's the crime in that?
However not criminalizing 2 sexually consenting 16 and 17 year olds, or 17 and 18 year-olds, levels the playing field by the emotional, mental, equality of the participants.

How incredibly ignorant this is. Yes it does not compare to actual rape, and murder. "She said that "touching a 17-year-old's breast, kissing a 13-year-old, or putting one's hand up a 16-year-old's skirt" are not crimes comparable to gang rapes and murders and "anyone suggesting otherwise has lost touch with reality". However that makes it not a crime?! Ok, then stealing, vandalism, animal cruelty etc, is not murder, so no big deal either.

In relative terms powerful adults are being PERSECUTED by powerless 13 year-olds? Sounds like an oxymoron! Having once been a young adolescent myself, I can recall thinking I cannot wait until I can have control over my own life, so that I do not have to endure abuse from "old men" that had control over my life. You cannot imagine the feeling of betrayal you feel from people who you were told had your best interests at heart and oh yes, they love you and you should try it, it feels good no matter how much you did not want to. I do not know of any 13, 14 year olds, that are sexually attracted to anyone over 20. If they are it is usually attributed to having already been molested, and have become sexualized before they were emotionally and mentally prepared.
I never felt I had a childhood. Old men who already had their life, should have the option to control a young person's life for their own sexual enjoyment, because their sexual gratification is a priority over a young adolescent's mental and emotional health? I have 3 adult children, and I am grateful they have never had to experience being forced to bloom before they were ready, with some old creep.



posted on May, 10 2013 @ 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by LightSeeker55
how does Lauryn Hill get sent to corrective classes for speaking on the music industry, yet this lady does not get any sort of punishment? this is one of the most nasty lines of thinking I can conceive. It makes a lot of sense to lower the age of consent so the perveted old men can stop receiving punishments at the expense of young children...I smell a scandal cooking.


That woman is in the UK.



posted on May, 10 2013 @ 03:40 PM
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Well she is living proof that it is not only deviant male's that endanger children but sometime's it is Deviant woman as well, I am truly sickened by her attitude that smack's of the drive to strip fair and equal justice form the masses in British society, Just like the removal of legal aid the elitist mob of whom she is a fully paid up member show not only how out of touch with the British people but how Callous and corrupt in there beliefs and lack of ethical morality and common decency they are, a 13 year old girl is only a child and a society that ceased to protect it's children has entered a very dark place from which there may be no return.

Vengeance is god's so leave her/it to him.



posted on May, 10 2013 @ 03:56 PM
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Sorry mate I must reply to this, abusing a 13 year old girl is not male sexuality it is pedophilia and not in any one's book outside Islam anyway, normal behavior, they are kid's just on the start of adolescence and most woman though more emotionally mature than men are still child minded even into there early 20's were we men can lag as far as 5 to 10 years behind emotionally and really don't start growing up mentally until we are in our late 20's though this vary's wildly from person to person and culture to culture, I can still find no excuse nor would I want to.



posted on May, 10 2013 @ 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by votan
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I wondered when pedos would be next to be accepted along with homos.

guess it is beginning to happen in my lifetime.


while i don't agree with the "homos" aspect i do agree with your statement about being "accepted" and accepted so they can legally get away with their disgusting abuse. what is wrong with people anyway?

sadly this'll just be another thing we'll complain about and not bother acting against it.



posted on May, 10 2013 @ 05:02 PM
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She's obviously after a position in the Tory Party..... if she's not already member
Paedo's the lot of them...
I hope she's disbarred soon......



posted on May, 10 2013 @ 05:23 PM
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These kinds of discussions are usually pretty energetic. I didn't see this chart in the thread so here it is for Western Europe:

Age of Consent

en.wikipedia.org...



I think these laws are intended not just to protect young people from unwanted sex but also to protect them from criminal prosecution for having sex when they want to. The chart shows that 14, 15, and 16 are the most popular ages of consent, but there is quite a variety of ages represented, albeit none below 13.

Cultural attitudes vary considerably. I don't think any jurisdiction, no matter what their choice of age of consent, is attempting to foster teenage pregnancies or attempting to create a happy hunting ground for middle aged pervs, though this might in fact be a consequence of the "age" chosen.

These are very tough issues. Children are sexual well before the age of 13. That is the other side of the coin in this discussion. "Should sexual activity by preteens be criminalized?"

Is there a more nuanced way of dealing with sexual exploitation?

I don't have the answer. The law is a very blunt instrument. People take sexual assault very seriously, far more seriously than assault causing grievous bodily harm. I think there is something wrong with that.



posted on May, 10 2013 @ 05:46 PM
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I was wondering the same thing. Some children who are molested come to "love" their predators. It's possible (and this is purely contrived by me) that she is one of those victims and has projected her reality onto other children who are victims of sexual abuse. She may think that "percecuting old men" is a crime in itself because she sees it as punishing the "love" they share with their victim.

I don't know if that's the case, but she's pretty twisted either way. I mean, the guy she said only commited a minor misdemeanor plead guilty to sexually abusing children as young as nine!



posted on May, 10 2013 @ 06:05 PM
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Maybe there should be a graded scale when it comes to age of consent. To avoid manipulation by adults maybe the age of consent should be a "relative age", for example no more than a two year difference in age between the individuals involved up to the age of "consent", and then the country in question chooses that benchmark.

In Spain, for example, a person of 12 could have sex with a person of 14 but no older than 14.

It's an idea that is more reasonable than simply setting one "age of consent" intended to cover all circumstances and to give a hard line beyond which criminal prosecution can happen. I think a law like that, a criminal law, is a little more responsive to reality in life.

For the record, I would have serious concerns if a son or daughter of mine were having sex at the age of 12. On the other hand, at the age of 12, I probably would have been delighted to have it myself. In fact I know I would have.

Here's the Canadian standard:

www.cbc.ca...


It is now illegal for adults in Canada to have sex with a partner under the age of 16, one of the new provisions of the Tories' violent crime law that came into effect on Thursday.

The Tackling Violent Crime Act raises the legal age of sexual consent in Canada to 16 from 14, the first time it has been raised since 1892.

But the law includes a "close-in-age exception," meaning 14- and 15-year-olds can have sex with someone who is less than five years older.

The Tories said they raised the age, in part, to deal with internet predators. The new law puts Canada's age of consent in line with those in Britain, Australia and most of the United States.
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posted on May, 10 2013 @ 07:08 PM
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Originally posted by ototheb85
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Oh believe me if they passed this and the paedophiles come flooding in I can tell you now id on the lookout for them and id terrorise any near my estate!


Why on earth are you even suggesting there is even a remote possibility this would be passed? A barrister has stated her opinion which some rag has decided to make into a front page story, end of. Other barristers will say similarly contentious things on other issues - none of them have ever been tabled to be proposed as a change to the current law and something like this just won't - it's not even a possibility.



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posted on May, 10 2013 @ 07:34 PM
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I believe in a 2 tiered age limit. Ie. if a 13 year old is dating a 17 or 19 year old, and often its puppy love on both sides, and often the 13 year old is like most 16 year olds in my generation, I don't think that is sexual abuse. But there should be a cut off point, ie. if a 20 year old is dating a 13 year old, ie no longer a teen, end of discussion, grow up. Time to ID the potential girl friend, AND there are dirty old men/women about on top of that. I think if they target a 17 year old, there should be consequences.





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