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Proof that all the outrage about Benghazi is fake and manufactured

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posted on May, 11 2013 @ 01:20 AM
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reply to post by Happy1
 


How can it be spontaneous?

No killer ever kills until the fee is paid.




posted on May, 11 2013 @ 01:26 AM
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reply to post by MrInquisitive
 


I'm talking high treson on every recent administration in the US - there's no difference between democrats and republicans - and if you think there is - you're just plain stupid.

Tell me the differnce between Bush and Obozo? Are our borders secure? NO. Are we getting out of the middle east mess? NO. Is our economy any better? NO. I could go on and on.

They - and before them - are leading us to a collapse of monumental proportions - and all leading to a one world gov't. - and major depopulation of the world.



posted on May, 11 2013 @ 01:33 AM
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reply to post by Wrabbit2000
 


My take on Bush - he did not do anything. He was just a rubber stamp.

So let us get out of this notion that Bush did something. Yah he did read speeches prepared by somebody else.

Obama obviously has more intelligence than Bush but the problem is US system works differently than it appears.

Presidents appear to make certain decisions while mostly these decisions are already made and President is supposed to 'announce' it for the benefit of the people. It is a good way to keep people feeling good and occupied.

However the actors who work from the shadows are not unanimous in their opinions. Sometimes things do not happen or postponed due to this reason. The poor President becomes a favorite scapegoat and a whipping boy for the chattering classes, due to no fault of his own.



posted on May, 11 2013 @ 01:39 AM
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There is a difference in democrats and republicans though both are working for NWO.

The difference is approach. Republicans act exactly like British empire so I suspect are carrying out an agenda of British monarchy.

The democrats have a more people centric approach where citizens are not expendable.



posted on May, 11 2013 @ 02:05 AM
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reply to post by GargIndia
 

I certainly respect your opinion, while disagreeing a bit. I think the Presidents do answer to a level above that. At least one level above. However, puppets? None would take the job if they were just play toys for someone else. Nor would we have the chains of men below them who serve their orders and directives, as is the case here.

I'd personally say a President is given a set of guides to stay within, so to speak ..and occasionally, very specific things to be done or accomplished as needed. Aside from that and as long as they play nice with others? I think they have broad discretion to run things how they see fit.

So long as they don't lose their place in the grand scheme of things, in that very general sense? I think the majority of what is attributed to them, IS within their power to do or not do.

Assuming nothing is theirs to decide comes back to a mindset which is as self defeating to individuals like us as it is illogical. That is, everyone is to blame ..so no one is to blame. Or worse..No one is to blame, because those guilty are almost supernaturally beyond reach or even identity to know and understand.

edit on 11-5-2013 by Wrabbit2000 because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 11 2013 @ 03:36 AM
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Maybe President has some freedom of action, but how much?

Egyptian king enjoyed unimaginable wealth but was still a puppet to the Chief Priest.

The assassination of Kennedy tells us that the freedom of action is not large. Critical things are decided by somebody else unless the President himself is the part of the hidden actors, so a decision maker.

The popular Presidents don't fare well with the hidden actors. There is a constant effort to pull down the reputation of a popular President. That tells something.

It all comes from the logic and structure of successful empires. Kings were never a supreme authority in any long running successful empire. The religio-political elite that sustains itself intellectually has always been the main power.



posted on May, 11 2013 @ 09:36 AM
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Desperate attempts by the spin doctors to get people to ignore Obama's nincompooopery and shady underhanded dealings. Hillary screwed up big time and tried to cover it up. Well, no. People died when Obama lied. This is just ONE example of this nitwits screwups and poor choice of top administration officials. Eric Holder is a stooge as well.
These clowns need an army to post online to prop them up, its pathetic.



posted on May, 11 2013 @ 09:47 AM
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reply to post by Dutchowl
 


I want to ask you a question? Would you like an America where all your freedoms are taken away and you become a virtual slave to your government?



posted on May, 11 2013 @ 10:40 AM
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Originally posted by GargIndia
reply to post by Happy1
 




The democrats have a more people centric approach where citizens are not expendable.



Nah...they just want to present that perception. More than half of the richest politicians in congress are democrats.

If you really believe they are "for the little guy" they have very sincerely sucked you in.

Think about it this way: When the Dems controlled congress did legislation get passed that seriously will help the little guy? Did they stop the "richer getting richer" condition? If there are laws and policies that exist that benefit those in power, they are there because they are "supposed" to be there and not by accident. Not by some "loophole" and certainly not because of opposition of the "other party"....

The only differences between the dems and repubs are those that are scripted to prevent legislation that will change the order of things. Some of the differences are just there for window dressing... but the end results are always the same, and are always headed in the same direction. After all, in a 2 party system there has to be some conflict or everyone would know there were no substantial differences.



posted on May, 11 2013 @ 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by GargIndia
reply to post by Dutchowl
 


I want to ask you a question? Would you like an America where all your freedoms are taken away and you become a virtual slave to your government?



Is that not the direction we are headed?

Is the govt not actively promoting greater dependence on it? For security as well as economically?

In the name of "security" are we not losing freedoms and rights almost daily?

Can the powers that be enter your home legally without a search warrant, and not even have to let you know they were there?

Do you have to submit to searches without just cause?

Do you have to tithe almost half your income to the govt?

If you want to do anything but sit in your house and starve do you not, in effect, have to get permission from the govt? (licenses, permits etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc)



posted on May, 11 2013 @ 11:32 AM
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I am afraid thats what NWO is.

American families are losing income and assets. More families are becoming hand to mouth. Debt levels are continuously rising.

Why? Because there is serious contraction in the industrial base that has killed higher paying jobs for the middle class. The new 'service' industries either need very qualified people or pay very little.

America is dependent on imports which it cannot pay for. The imports come mainly due to foreigners who are keen to buy US assets. So it is basically selling family jewels to feed.

What is the end result. First financial slavery leading to physical slavery.



posted on May, 11 2013 @ 12:01 PM
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HERE,HERE! My God I hear SOOOOOOO many people tell me I'm tea party and how bush did this or that.SO WHAT I'm talking about the current president who may get kicked out and maybe just a distant maybe,the next ones will extract their craniums from their 5th point of contact.
I registered as an Independent I'll vote how I please thank you.



posted on May, 11 2013 @ 07:50 PM
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Don't get your hopes too high, otherwise your brain will explode.

Americans are so thoroughly brainwashed that they are unable to see the evil within them.

Guns will not save America. Tea party will not save America. Americans have to understand first what is ailing their nation.



posted on May, 11 2013 @ 08:26 PM
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A large special operations force is located in Naval Air Station Sigonella. A quick google search shows this to be true. It is less than a 2 hour flight from Sigonella to Benghazi in an AC-130. An AC-130 uses turbo props for flight. Basically a super fast propeller. No jet engines. If turbo props can get you to Beghazi in 2 hours, how fast would a jet engine get you there?

Drones bomb Pakistan without question violating the country's sovereignity. We don't ask Pakistan's permission to do this, but we asked Libya which caused a delay in response. They do so to kill terrorists, but won't to rescue fellow Americans?

I can not find a single instance anywhere on the internet or from reading where the State Department has been given ANY authority to deal with SOCOM. To the contrary they have been rebuffed of attempts in the past. Only the Commander-in-chief and a select set of DoD officers can order around SOCOM. So who gave that stand down order?

I don't want to hear about budget cuts and all that non-sense. I want an answer to these three questions.



posted on May, 11 2013 @ 08:39 PM
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What is the surprise here?

The situation is very clear. There was a clandestine CIA gun running operation in Benghazi. It was happening with the approval of government of Libya.

So there would be an expectation that Libya would be able to take care of the attackers so that cover is not blown from the secret USA operation.

There are factions within Muslim extremists. These people are not like a single 'Al Qaida' as you think but are divided by hundreds of divergent creeds. They have differences among them and there are other actors who do not want US to be successful.

So what happened is there was delay while negotiations were going on behind the scenes and during which situation got out of hand. So it is true that this incident is an 'accident'.

Providing huge security to a clandestine CIA operation is illogical.

The jumping up and down does not change the facts.



posted on May, 11 2013 @ 09:45 PM
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They send huge escort teams for stuff like that. I know I've been there. We supported a bunch of spooks in OIF that were making deals with kurds. If you have no experience in such matters you shouldn't comment on them. Clandestine does not equal James Bond, it equals multiple small tactical teams. Ever stop to consider why they had teams waiting BEFORE the incident?

Now instead of deflecting try answering my 3 questions?

Gun running op may have been why they were there, but that does not justify not attempting to save your fellow countrymen. Republican, Democrat, Independent, or whatever shouldn't matter. Any given American is worth 568274657 of any other nationality in my opinion. I would expect the same thing from an Indian or Englishman to feel the same about their countrymen as well. If it does justify it for you, please don't bother replying. Our moral compasses are to different to have a meaningful conversation.



posted on May, 11 2013 @ 09:54 PM
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I'm an expert on real life in America bub,I don't need much external input other than that which I now to choose discover. The last three presidents have been a great boon to my conspiracy theories coming true.William Cooper was 10 % right now figure out which 10% I speak of.
I know because I've been around,I didn't read about it.
Hope? Hah ,maybe for the kids but as I see it, as long as no one stops them,the'll be a civil war or a police state.If a president gets burned and his cronies well thats just entertainment,it all started with Clinton then Bush anyway.

If America goes down you are ALL lost behind her,I'll just keep on track



posted on May, 11 2013 @ 09:54 PM
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Originally posted by Wrabbit2000

Assuming nothing is theirs to decide comes back to a mindset which is as self defeating to individuals like us as it is illogical. That is, everyone is to blame ..so no one is to blame. Or worse..No one is to blame, because those guilty are almost supernaturally beyond reach or even identity to know and understand.

edit on 11-5-2013 by Wrabbit2000 because: (no reason given)


I am guessing you don't understand the political system well yet. A successful campaign takes lots of money to run properly and if you win you owe those guys big time. We are talking tens of millions of dollars here. That is why all campaign contributions should be outlawed and the cost passed to the tax payer who then will have every right to complain when the president and congress ignores/disobeys them. Currently the average person is acting as a judge for american idol and picks the winner, nothing else.

Then we have old money bags with billions or even trillions of dollars to spare and can buy the moon if they want to. A D and R president is not a people friendly president. It is all smoke and mirrors. They create the problems, manipulate the reactions and then provide the phoney solutions.



posted on May, 11 2013 @ 10:06 PM
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Originally posted by GargIndia
reply to post by cavtrooper7
 


Don't get your hopes too high, otherwise your brain will explode.

Americans are so thoroughly brainwashed that they are unable to see the evil within them.

Guns will not save America. Tea party will not save America. Americans have to understand first what is ailing their nation.


The tea party makes up a small minority of republicans who want to reform it for the better, just like Occupy makes up a small minority of the democrats who want to reform it. In reality both TP and Occupy are very different from their mainstream breathen, I am talking night and day different.

I am occupy but I agree with some TP ideas. I am a social conservative and financial progressive. I like the Constitution party but in america "third parties" do not get serious attention, therefore lots of folks vote for mainstream parties so they won't waste their vote. It is a very sick system indeed! In most countries small parties get 3% to 20% of the total vote.



posted on May, 11 2013 @ 10:18 PM
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If it hasn't ALREADY been compromised,you are correct but I don't think the system in place will continue to work.



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