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During her trial, Hill was ordered by the judge in Newark, New Jersey to undergo counselling because of her conspiracy theories - including that artists are being oppressed by a plot involving the military and media.
Hill was released on $150,000 bail that U.S. District Judge Michael Shipp said included being allowed to leave the country for music tours and a condition she must undergo mental health counseling. Her lawyer Nathan Hochman said Hill has been in family counseling for the past ten years.
"This is not mental health counseling, this is family counseling. Ms. Hill is very particular about language," Hochman told reporters outside the court.
I hope you don't object if I put that in my signature block. I've never been called anything like that before, even in the "Sovereign Citizen" threads I've posted in before.
Then you have these shills/brainwashed blogger trolls such as Charles1952 further confusing and swaying peoples belief systems.
I don't like criminal activity, and "robbery" is a crime as declared by our laws. If the laws and courts have a definition of it, then for all practical purposes that's what it is.
I don't know your views of criminal activity or particular definition of the word "robbery" Charles 1952; but for myself, the last time I looked up the definition of robbery it was taking from one through the threat of or the use...of force.
I don't think I've ever expressed that belief. I pay taxes because the Supreme Court has told me I have to, and I'm shrewd enough to know that I'll get into trouble if I don't.
Your belief that everyone should pay taxes for the cohesiveness of our society: is just that, a belief. What is it called Charles when one imposes their beliefs upon another?
“Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see.”
That's really good. I get it, King Tut.
charles... tut tut
Title 26 United States Code. There's a fairly attractive web page showing the laws here: docs.law.gwu.edu...
firstly.... where is it written that she has to pay tax
How? What does that even mean? She lives here, works here, earns and spends here. How does one remove themselves from society?
also... hasnt she removed herself from society....
All true, if she had made a mistake on her return and worked with the IRS to fix it. But she refused to pay, and avoided negotiations. That gets criminal.
when i heard she was being sent to prison, i felt physically sick
its pretty simple.. this is a civil matter...if she had a chartered accountant.... then she should only get a fine
Sentencing is, within limits, at the Judge's discretion. It's always been like that. Most people like it, as it is one more chance for mercy.
i dont know how the darn law works in the US anymore... it all looks like it favours the judges discretion
because she brought those issues up as part of her defense. The judge didn't go "delving," his nose was rubbed in it.
then whys the judge delving into other issues?
couldnt he just order her to pay the money and fine...not to go one a course
Let's not get siily. It's counselling, you know, talking with a shrink for an hour.
where they probably give them injections, and nuke their brains!!
Originally posted by octotom
reply to post by XaniMatriX
you don't have to pay taxes if you don't want to,
Of course you don't. I just don't want those that don't pay taxes to complain when the tax man comes (and blame it on slavery) and they shouldn't be allowed to partake in those things that tax money pays for.
you don't have to register your OWN car to a corporation that will take it away from you
I suppose you mean the government. Again, no you don't have to. But when you get slammed with a fine, don't complain.
Living in a society means that there are certain rules that have to be followed. There are punishments that go with not following said rules. We all just can't make up things as we go along if we want to have a cohesive, efficient society.
Originally posted by ThreeBears
Bottom line is this: The Government is NOT GOD. I repeat, the Government is NOT GOD.
The Tax issue is a different issue from the Mental Illness LABEL and re Education, tax or no tax in NO WAY does it make it Legally or Morally right for a Supposedly FREELY ELECTED GOVERNMENT to play GOD and DICTATE what Thoughts, ideas, CRITICISMS are allowed and which one's are not,
To label Any one with a DISSENTING VIEW AS MENTAL is nothing more than DICTATORSHIP PERIOD.
It is THOUGHT CONTROL IN STEROIDS, and if Citizens agree with having their THOUGHTS CONTROLED then they are consenting to SLAVERY. Period.
Tax or no tax, this is the crap Stalin did, and Mao, with the whole Class Enemy, you like Western music OMG round you up and Throw you into the gulag or better,
The me TAL hospital to be drugged to THINK how the STATE SAYS YOU WILL THINK.
And it's just mind boggling at how many are OK with this garbage...why not then just let the Gubermint take OUT your Brain and put IN Their mind machine etc and just be their little PUPPET? Why not, you might as well. Let THEM tell you who to like, who to love, what to wear, what to eat, HOW TO FEEL, etc., and just
Go on, DROOL.
And then, if they want you to add to those Taxes without representation to cut off your penis or your clitoris hey, go ahead, why not? Next maybe they only want you to have one hand, cut the other off, Why not, go on, go ahead, DO IT
Because according to a lot of logic today, if you DON'T CONSENT, why Something must be Wrooooooong with you, so
Go in Sacrifices, lay on the Altar of blood and start a chopping. Remeber they Luuuuuve you and only want the best for you,
It was your CREATOR who gave you a Right and Left brain that reasons, HE/SHEs the EVIL ONE, don't you see, you're not supposed to QUESTION AUTHORITY, even IF that authority bleeds red like you and craps like you a d can DIE like you, why they are GODS...pay your TRIBUTE, with your BLOOD and LIMBS,
Go on, off your way then. OBEY. OBEY. OBEY
And be Sure you SMILE as you chop off those limbs and other evil tissues, that's just your TAXES plus, for your Good, never forget that.