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Petition "Stop Any and All Islamic Immigration Into the US"

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posted on May, 9 2013 @ 10:57 AM
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reply to post by SimonPeter
 


How many Americans die per year from suicide bombs? Mexican drug cartels are on our borders literally beheading people. MS13 is one the deadliest gangs in the United States. And somehow, because 2 idiot kids blew up a race, ALL Muslims are more dangerous? This irrational, emotionally-driven response, is not what we need... and it's the very reason why our troops sit on Afghanistan's border instead of our own.




posted on May, 9 2013 @ 11:00 AM
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Originally posted by GunzCoty
Petition "Stop Any and All brown people Immigration Into the US"

That is what this sounds like, another raciest rant.

Why do people think Islam = "middle eastern" people?


They don't. Your logic has gaps in it and you find it difficult to keep up with it. There is nothing about "brown people" anywhere in this thread. Duh.



posted on May, 9 2013 @ 11:20 AM
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I'm all for this. Where do I sign?



posted on May, 9 2013 @ 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by UnBreakable
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I'm all for this. Where do I sign?



i am with ya-but sighning anything wont change a thing.



posted on May, 9 2013 @ 11:50 AM
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OK. I'll bite.

Please kick all the Irish people out of the USA. The Irish organised Terrorism.

You ok with that one?



posted on May, 9 2013 @ 11:51 AM
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I think the suggestion is both ineffective and insupportable as well as being very poorly thought out.

How does one determine who a "Muslim" is? Birth country? There are Christian, Buddhist, Baha'i, and many other faiths (as well as atheists) in each of those countries.

Do we ask everyone who applies for immigration status to swear they're not Muslim? How do we know they're not lying? Ask them to prove church sponsorship? How do you prevent outright lies and a corrupt system where people are paid to swear someone belongs to a certain faith?

Skin color? Do we then ship all our Native Americans off overseas?

What about those who live here and started out Christian but converted to the Muslim faith?

This has all the forethought of McCarthyism -- and if you'll recall your history, we've done this before (many times) and each time it fails spectacularly because it harms so many innocents.



posted on May, 9 2013 @ 11:56 AM
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"i am with ya-but sighning anything wont change a thing."

Yes it will, it will let TBTB know where you reside and that you have an opinion on the matter. You are just giving "Them" more information regarding yourself. If you wish to end up on one of there lists carry on, probably already on one just because you/me participate in controversial discussions here at ATS to be fair!

Trippy part is you will probably all end up in the same FEMA camp together at last!

Also you better hope the Evil Muslims don't get access to said petition in case they come find you, i hear they are blowing thing up these days! LoL

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posted on May, 9 2013 @ 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by ratcals
Yes I would limit the number of gay people. And the limit is zero. Being gay just goes against the laws of nature. Have you ever tried to build something with just two bolts? Or just two nuts? It doesn't work. Our survival depends on the union of a male and female. Not a male and male or female and female. And don't call my position homophobia either. By the definition homophobia is an irrational fear of homosexuals. I'm not afraid of them. I'M DISGUSTED BY THEM. Also do not try and use nature as an example of homosexuality being 'natural'. Male animals seemingly copulating with other males is a display of dominance and is not sexual at all.


What a surprise! You reveal yourself to be nothing but a blatantly small minded and hate filled individual. Shock horror.
Maybe you, and everyone who thinks like you, should learn to understand something before you condemn it. Homosexuality is not an abomination, nor is it unnatural. It's just another example of one of humanity's only redeeming features: the ability to love. We have developed an ability to form powerful emotional attachments to other lifeforms, and those attachments are beautiful no matter who it is.

Similarly, Muslims are not terrorists. TERRORISTS are terrorists. They come in all shapes, sizes, colours, religions etc etc. Muslims are people, and a people that are actually very easy to get along with. They don't force Islam on you, they don't constantly sit there judging you. For the most part they're quite happy to do most of the things you do.

OP, how many Muslims do you know? And by 'know' I don't mean how many people do you know are Muslim, but how many have you developed friendships with? Or hung out with? Or taken on a night out with you?
I'd go so far as to assume the number is zero. Make some friends, open your mind and, above all...

DENY IGNORANCE!



posted on May, 9 2013 @ 12:17 PM
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1. You know this will never pass
2. If it did they'd just say they were another religion on the immigration papers.
3. You wouldn't like if they said no more white protestants even though you spent your life defending the country.
4. Why spread more hate?
5. You know all Muslims aren't bad
6. What about some other religions that are wreaking havoc on the country, are they OK since they aren't muslim?



posted on May, 9 2013 @ 12:19 PM
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"Yes I would limit the number of gay people"

What about Gay Muslims, how many of that particular demograph would you deem acceptable? Never mind I think I can guess your answer!

Mate you are kind of coming across as a racist homophobe!

Just saying it takes all sorts to make the world go round!

Hate much???
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posted on May, 9 2013 @ 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by buster2010

As far as immigrants that causes terrorist attacks in America Muslims are next the bottom of the list.


Really?

Since 9/11, in the USA we have had Muslims trying to

• Destroy the Brooklyn bridge

• Blow up an Ohio shopping mall

• Blow up the New York stock exchange

• Blow up the NY subway

• Blow up an Indian diplomat with a shoulder fired grenade launcher

• Blow up National Guard facilities and synagogues in the LA area

• Blow up the Wyoming natural gas refinery & the Transcontinental Pipeline

• Set off a dirty bomb in the USA

• Blow up the US Capitol and Word Bank Headquarters

• Blow up the Sears tower in Chicago

• Blow up NY city train tunnels

• Set off hand grenades in a shopping mall outside Chicago

• Conspiring to attack Fort Dix, New Jersey

• Set off a TAPT bomb in the NY subway

• Blow up a Dallas skyscraper

• Set off a car bomb outside the courthouse in downtown Springfield, Illinois

• Murder civilians in US shopping malls

• Blow up “aviation fuel tanks and pipelines at the John F. Kennedy International Airport”

• Shoot down planes with stinger missiles.

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Of course, while the police and CIA have prevented the above attacks, they were not successful at stopping the Boston attack or the Fort Hood attack where Nidal Malik Hasan killed 13 people and shot 30 people other people while shouting allahu akbar (god is great).

Islamic terrorism in the USA has on the whole been unsuccessful but not for want of trying. Of course we can't condemn all Muslims for the terrorist attacks of a few.

The radicals swim like fish amongst the more moderate community.


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posted on May, 9 2013 @ 12:34 PM
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i wonder if the native americans ever had a chance to sign a petition like that



posted on May, 9 2013 @ 12:36 PM
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The other thing bothering you is that you don't want them getting all the government checks for free like you do every month, correct?



posted on May, 9 2013 @ 12:41 PM
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Originally posted by Elbereth11

i wonder if the native americans ever had a chance to sign a petition like that


Probably not.




posted on May, 9 2013 @ 12:45 PM
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Who stole the Jam out your doughnut anyways?

What's the matter did one of those God dammed Muslim immigrant potential terrorists take your job?




Who exactly do you deem fit to enter the United States???

And as for Sharia law becoming commonplace in the US, can you please explain how you come to this conclusion?

If I was you I would be more worried about Americans passing laws that limit your freedom rather than the Muslims some how rising up and implementing Sharia law in your country.
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posted on May, 9 2013 @ 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by neformore
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OK. I'll bite.

Please kick all the Irish people out of the USA. The Irish organised Terrorism.

You ok with that one?



Irish terrorism only affected the Brits, not America. I'm an isolationist so I don't care about Britain. The Irish people I know love it here in America and don't preach blowing up marathons and buildings.



posted on May, 9 2013 @ 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by andy06shake
reply to post by ratcals
 


Who stole the Jam out your doughnut anyways?

What's the matter did one of those God dammed Muslim immigrants take your job?




Who exactly do you deem fit to enter the United States mate???
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My criteria to enter US: Name mustn't have more than 2 consonants seperated by a vowel or be more than 3 syllables.



posted on May, 9 2013 @ 01:01 PM
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Originally posted by UnBreakable

Originally posted by neformore
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OK. I'll bite.

Please kick all the Irish people out of the USA. The Irish organised Terrorism.

You ok with that one?



Irish terrorism only affected the Brits, not America. I'm an isolationist so I don't care about Britain. The Irish people I know love it here in America and don't preach blowing up marathons and buildings.


Seriously??????

I'm even a half Irish Brit and I find that one of the most offensive posts I've ever read. When things happen to Americans that were not of their own doing then I care - you know why? Because...

A) we are all human
B) we all exist on the same planet and shouldn't 'not care' if some people want to kill others to further their political ideology.

You come across as a little challenged in your approach to being a member of the human race, good look with getting that sorted.



posted on May, 9 2013 @ 01:06 PM
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I think a better idea would be to not allow any Christians leave the United States, especially anyone in the US Military.

Islam is not our enemy. But Judeo-Christianity is which built Western Civilization into one big cluster#.

g.



posted on May, 9 2013 @ 01:09 PM
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Originally posted by something wicked

Originally posted by UnBreakable

Originally posted by neformore
reply to post by ratcals
 


OK. I'll bite.

Please kick all the Irish people out of the USA. The Irish organised Terrorism.

You ok with that one?



Irish terrorism only affected the Brits, not America. I'm an isolationist so I don't care about Britain. The Irish people I know love it here in America and don't preach blowing up marathons and buildings.


Seriously??????

I'm even a half Irish Brit and I find that one of the most offensive posts I've ever read. When things happen to Americans that were not of their own doing then I care - you know why? Because...

A) we are all human
B) we all exist on the same planet and shouldn't 'not care' if some people want to kill others to further their political ideology.

You come across as a little challenged in your approach to being a member of the human race, good look with getting that sorted.


Calm down, I was being sarcastic, a tongue-in-cheek response. Lighten up.




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