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Originally posted by RockerDom
All this talk of the Democratic Party being dead, and beaten is pure hogwash. Out of approimately 115 million votes, Bush got roughly 59.5, Kerry about 56. Bush only won by 4 electoral votes, Regan won by over 500.
- Dom
Originally posted by Amuk
What I cannot understand is how they could not find a candidate to beat a president with such low approvel ratings. This should have been a slam dunk. Most of the voters I have spoken to voted AGAINST the other guy not for their guy.
Originally posted by billybob
Originally posted by Amuk
What I cannot understand is how they could not find a candidate to beat a president with such low approvel ratings. This should have been a slam dunk. Most of the voters I have spoken to voted AGAINST the other guy not for their guy.
indeed, the sheer number of voters indicates dissent. people don't show up in record numbers to 'go with the flow'. they were there to oust bush. if this had been an old fashioned paper vote, it would have been a landslide. the 'progressive' advent of technology, coupled with mass media brainwashing stops this nasty 'popular opinion' from mattering.
yay.
Originally posted by dcgolf
Actually, the sheer number of voters indicates the importance of this election. Like it or not, Bush won. "They" were not ther to oust Bush. "They" were there to elect a President.
How would this been a landslide for Kerry? This vote was less contested than the 2000 vote that Bush won. Can the Republicans really controll every state? Please don't say it came down to Florida in 2000 and Ohio in 2004.
Originally posted by billybob
Originally posted by dcgolf
Actually, the sheer number of voters indicates the importance of this election. Like it or not, Bush won. "They" were not ther to oust Bush. "They" were there to elect a President.
How would this been a landslide for Kerry? This vote was less contested than the 2000 vote that Bush won. Can the Republicans really controll every state? Please don't say it came down to Florida in 2000 and Ohio in 2004.
first of all, i'd like to voiice my more relevent opinion that it wouldn't matter who was put into office. everything is carefully planned using "psychohistory', to borrow a term from asimov.
if kerry had 'won', i would be equally vitriolic. at least bush is the 'enemy you know'. they are both illuminati bloodline, related to the windsors and SKULL AND BONESmen, the 'germanic death cult" see prisonplanet.com for more info.
the exit polls indicate a kerry win. this alone should raise a few eyebrows.
kerry caving, when it wasn't clear that he need concede, that in fact he may have won, should raise a few more.
the voting machines did just that, ...you simply plug them in, and they vote for bush. no actual voters required.
it obviously DID come down to florida in 2000, and then some back pocket judges decided that bush should win. he didn't win, it was just decided by a few guys in gowns that he did. no actual voters required.
i tell you, if i was an american, i'd be chompin' at the bit.
of course, this is what 'they' want. they want you to start being violent, and running amok in the streets. that way, they can fill up all those huge interment camps they've spent so much time and effort to build. and 'they' can make use of all the fine totalitarian laws they have set up for 'the emergency'(civil war).
happy FEMA everyone of good conscience. i'll see you on the inside.
Originally posted by Amuk
Forget about WHICH party is in control, is it a good idea for ANY party to control all three branches?
I dont really care that Bush was elected I would have been hard pressed to choose the bigger idiot, but I dont see this working out very well.
Originally posted by RANT
Originally posted by Amuk
Forget about WHICH party is in control, is it a good idea for ANY party to control all three branches?
No. And I said so about a thousand time before this election to Libertarians.
I dont really care that Bush was elected I would have been hard pressed to choose the bigger idiot, but I dont see this working out very well.
Just a question. If Bush were so intent on installing a theocracy, why wouldn't he have done it during his first term?
Ya think? If EdSinger being thrilled Bush gets to appoint three or more Supreme Court Justices doesn't scare the life out of libertarian minded people nothing will.
But just like I thought would happen when so many Bush voters said leading up to the election, oh...Bush won't get to appoint that many Judges, and the Dems will stop them if they do so don't worry, vote your conscious ....now true colors are revealed just like I knew they would be.
YAY! We get to ban everything!!!
Question for you Amuk and LP'ers. Stopping some of these appointments will be difficult to impossible. An even smaller minority of Democrats (thanks to reverse coat-tails) will be forced to filibuster and obstruct.
Will you support these libertarian minded efforts or join the RNC bandwagon defaming Democrats as obstructionists?
Like it or not, the "Dems are just the same as Republicans" line will no longer float. Not with me anyway. The LP is great and all, but it's proven as effective as an umbrella in a hurricane. In a phrase, thanks for nothing.
Democrats are your last line of defense from a Theocracy. Support them in this fight or lose America. And if you haven't joined the ACLU it's beyond time. It's a little bigger than 400,000 LP voters and does good work.
I'm not trying to piss you off Amuk or any other LP voter, but it's time to get serious. The authoritarian theocracy threat is real.
Originally posted by RANT
"Just a question. If Bush were so intent on installing a theocracy, why wouldn't he have done it during his first term? "
To me?
No. He wouldn't dare in a first term. But the issues isn't so much what Bush wants anyway. It's the 100 million evangelicals he just handed the keys. You think they'll just quietly go back to church and pray? Now they're a ruling special interest group in Washington.
And that Moonie money seems to never run out.
Originally posted by dcgolf
Why wouldn't he dare in his first term? If it is as everyone says, he is just trying to rule the world.
Originally posted by RANT
Question for you Amuk and LP'ers. Stopping some of these appointments will be difficult to impossible. An even smaller minority of Democrats (thanks to reverse coat-tails) will be forced to filibuster and obstruct.
Will you support these libertarian minded efforts or join the RNC bandwagon defaming Democrats as obstructionists?
Originally posted by billybob
Originally posted by dcgolf
Why wouldn't he dare in his first term? If it is as everyone says, he is just trying to rule the world.
he did dare in his first term. you must have slept through the patriot act. you must have been brushing your teeth when the farce war started. when everybody else was talking about the skull and bones, you must have had your walkman on full blast. you probably were watching sesame street when bush sr. declared the ushering in of "a new world order" in a speech on september eleventh, 1990, eleven years to the day. coincidence? sure, whatever. you can't tell a fish it lives in water. fish don't know what water is, ....until you drag them into the boat, that is.
why don't you just check out prisonplanet.com if you want to learn about internment camps. oh, right. you want everything handed to you on a mass media platter. it's not a conspiracy. it's in the records of congress. they're called 'emergency relocation centers', which is a polite word for prison camps.
while you're waiting for it(the takeover) to happen, it's already well under way. america is no longer free. it's bushtown(bush the corporate puppet).
the united states is strong, but it is no match for the combined military of the whole rest of the world. the boys are writing home for bullets and armour ALREADY, and that's just a little speck on the atlas that's been bombed into the stone age for the last 12 yrs.
luckily, wars are only to convince the public. the real decisions are made in boardrooms and secret enclaves by industry moguls. same as it ever was, same as it ever was......
Originally posted by dcgolf
I don't remeber us running amok in the streets. If the controllers of Bush wanted to run the country, why didn't they already take control? Maybe you can come take pictures of the "internment" camps. We'd all like to see them.
Originally posted by dcgolfThat way we can be sure that Bush coasted through his first term and allowed an election so that he can take over the world in his second term. If the powers that be wanted to rule the earth, why not take over now? Answer is, too easy. All a farce!
Originally posted by 27jd
I agree Bush is one of the worst things to ever happen to this country, but as far as imprisoning the population, that would not be possible, IMO. While abortion, gay rights, stem cell research, and anything else evangelical America disagrees with are gone, you're forgetting the one thing that keeps this administration in power, you said it yourself, corporations. Not alot of consuming to be done from an internment camp, the real people in power rely on us spending $$$$$. Civil war would probably not aid in the recovery of our economy, and money is the backbone of this administration. But look for plenty of death and destruction in other parts of the world.
Originally posted by 27jd
Well, I hope you're wrong, but if you're not I know I won't be alive to be a slave.
Is it good for any party to control all three branches?
Originally posted by 27jd
I agree, the only NWO should be total cooperation of the human race. I have always felt that way, nationalism be damned.