When a side is literally teaching and indoctrinating their children to 'hate', about the 'just rewards' to be gained from marytrdom, you have to
wonder. "Illegial" is a political word that has been disputed and fought over for how long? Human rights violations are committed on both sides. And
the US media has demonized and blasted Israel for its actions. The point of all this ZeroDeep is, if violence and terrorist acts haven't gained
Palestine a nation, why do you and others continue to back it and sanction it through your varied responses of: Israel is in the wrong, Israel is the
occupier, Israel is on illegial land, Isreal violates the Human Rights, etc., eh?
The cycle will never end, and terrible acts committed by both sides will continue to happen, even after a permanent, agreeable resolution is obtained
by and for both entities. In the Arab world, its called a blood fued. One side wins when the other is removed.
Generalizations, too many have been used; you're generalization that Palestinian children are indoctrinated into a "radical-Islamic" mentality is
contrived through the actions of a few radicals whose families have been expelled from thier lands --3.8 million-- and forced to live in refugee
camps, or live in foreign countries -- Jordan, Syria, Lebenon, and many other countries, and subjected to the most human rights violations commited by
any country in the world: Israel: we're talking about the violations that, as seems evident, under U.S. supervision, seem to exluded from the
mainstream media in the west, and can only be found in the myriad of works of "dissedents".
I don't see the U.S. media demonizing Israel for it's actions; I see the occasional mention of Isreal shooting and killing political figures, a few
civilians that were "proponents" of Hamas, and then this "wall" fiasco, which, among counltess other volitions, was deemed illegal and
unjustifiable. But under the presupposition that it detered acts of "terrorism", but yet allowed Israel to seige Palestine with some of most
military equipment on that side of the planet, thanks to the you, and your fellow American Tax-payers -- whom, I'am quite sure, don't have the
slightest clue what those tax-dollars are going towards. Tell me Seeker, how many times did the Media speak of the UN 242 resolution, which was
proposed in 67 by the U.S? Let's take a look at this resolution and what it entails for the Israeli people, and primarily, the people of Palenstine,
whome it sought to instate state hood:
Affirms that the fulfillment of Charter principles requires the establishment of a just and lasting peace in the Middle East which should include the
application of both the following principles:
Withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict;
Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political
independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of
Affirms further the necessity
For guaranteeing freedom of navigation through international waterways in the area;
For achieving a just settlement of the refugee problem;
For guaranteeing the territorial inviolability and political independence of every State in the area, through measures including the establishment of
Notice the right of Palenstinians granted? Oh wait, I mean: "LACK THERE OF ". This was used as for a good method of diplomacy for 20 years; then
came OSLO, and soon afterwards, the U.S. continued to supply Israel with weapons, and exlude the human rights violations commited be them, but
vehemently bringing to light the ones commited by Hamas on a daily basis.
Palenstine has fought for it's inalienable right to statehood, the U.S. and Israel has denied this time after time; Over 3.8 million Palestinians
have been expelled from their lands since the illegal occupation of thier land. The U.S. does not give a rats ass about those people;the U.S. has to
have utter and aboslute control of the biggest energy reserve in the world; they have to remain the most powerfull political and military clout in
that part of the world, regardless of what the world thinks.
The Arab world does not believe in a "blood fued: One side wins when the other is removed ". The Arab world believes in self-determination without
the West intervening in thier affairs and looting thier resources.
PS. It's ILLEGAL, Seekerof, no matter how you look at it. You can't simply say: "well it "was" illegal, but that's beyond us now, and mistakes
of the past." This is the attitude that has allowed so many in this world --notably the U.S.-- to get away with so many volitions time and time
again. The entire occupation is illegal, simple as that.
[edit on 7-12-2004 by ZeroDeep]