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posted on Nov, 4 2004 @ 10:20 PM
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After the killing of thirteen year old Iman al-Hams by an Israeli military commander in Rafah and the indiscrimate killings of other children in Gaza, I wonder if there is any truth in the rumours that the Israeli army are deliberately targeting Palestinian children.

With regards the death of Iman al-Hams:

According to testimonies given by soldiers in the same company to the mass Israeli daily Yedioth Ahronoth, a soldier in the watchtower identified Iman and cautioned his commander shouting, "Don't shoot. It's a little girl". The company commander, the soldiers testified, "approached her, shot two bullets into her [head], walked back towards the force, turned back to her, switched his weapon to automatic and emptied his entire magazine into her." ... A cursory army investigation later cleared him of any "unethical conduct", as is customary, and suspended him only because of "poor relations with subordinates


The article continues:

But why, someone may protest, should we judge Israel based on this one incident, as heinous as it may be? A brief look at Israel's recent record of purposely targeting Palestinian children will provide a compelling response. The fact that more than six hundred and twenty Palestinian children have been killed by Israel in the past four years should show that rather than being a mere aberration, murdering Iman was the rule.

Executing Another Child in Rafah

In my view the most heinous crime imaginable is the deliberate killing of a little child. If this article is true - if the Israeli army has a 'shoot to kill' policy towards Palestinian children - then something needs to be done. The decent, peace loving Israelis need to step forward and stop this barbarism that is being done in their name.




posted on Nov, 4 2004 @ 10:31 PM
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I dont think there is any redemption for a man who deliberitely kills a child, such a person should be put away for life!

but what does that military tribunal do? let him go free!

how does this reflect on the israeli government?

but then again what more can we expect from a country that still trades in russian female slaves



posted on Nov, 4 2004 @ 10:38 PM
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I don't know this case, but we have all seen Palestinian children are taking up guns and explosives against Israel.

They are taught by those religious leaders that they should go and die for Allah.

IF a big IF they were innocent children who were doing or had done nothing wrong, yes it was wrong and he should be removed and punished.

I think many people want to show a blind eye to what really happens over there.


[edit on 11/4/2004 by mrmonsoon]



posted on Nov, 5 2004 @ 08:28 AM
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It wouldnt suprise me to be honest,
i remember watching a documentry about Israel killing women and children just cause they are the "enemy of Israel".



posted on Nov, 5 2004 @ 08:42 AM
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Originally posted by mrmonsoon

IF a big IF they were innocent children who were doing or had done nothing wrong, yes it was wrong and he should be removed and punished.

[edit on 11/4/2004 by mrmonsoon]


if sitting at a desk in a school
getting an education is a very evil thing then the Israeli's are right to shoot them



posted on Nov, 5 2004 @ 08:46 AM
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Israelis would never kill children, you guys are just being anti-semtic. Your just spouting evil pallestinian lies and islamic propaganda... God's chosen people would never shoot into schools...

(cough cough)



posted on Nov, 5 2004 @ 08:52 AM
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Originally posted by twitchy
Israelis would never kill children, you guys are just being anti-semtic.


I know you weren"t serious but had to point out that Palastinians are Semites too.


[edit on 5-11-2004 by intrepid]



posted on Nov, 5 2004 @ 08:58 AM
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Aye good point... Let me re-phrase my prior then...
Israelis would never kill children, you guys are just spouting anti-jewish hatred, pallestinian propoganda and Islamic lies. Nothing to see here, everything is just kosher, now get back to work!



posted on Nov, 5 2004 @ 09:23 AM
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I don't know this case, but we have all seen Palestinian children are taking up guns and explosives against Israel.


Isreal doesn't give 11 year olds guns and put them in the line of fire...any guesses as to who does? Sorry, but if someone's got a gun on me, or lobs a grenade at me...age ceases to be a factor in my decision to return fire...



posted on Nov, 5 2004 @ 09:28 AM
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Originally posted by twitchy
Israelis would never kill children, you guys are just being anti-semtic.


what is with this Sh*t
if you say anything agaist the jews you are autmaticaly anti-semtic
but you can say things against other cultures and be fine

to me this is bullsh*t

if i read the news and see a israeli kill a child
i wont say
"its ok hes a jew"

if i say something else i will be branded anti-semtic



edit:
ps did i say i dont care if anyone calls me anti-semtic
because this reply and my views on the Israel/palis issue

[edit on 5-11-2004 by bodrul]



posted on Nov, 5 2004 @ 09:32 AM
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My point is that we have seen the atrocities from both sides, but when it comes to condemning their actions, Israel is absolved while the pallestinians are demonized in the western media. Both of them are at fault for the violence in that reigon.



posted on Nov, 5 2004 @ 09:35 AM
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Both of them are at fault for the violence in that reigon.


Agreed, but only ONE side uses children as combatants, and that side isn't Israel...



posted on Nov, 5 2004 @ 09:46 AM
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It seems to me-yes this is a side issue, I admit- that if you don't like what Israel does or feels they are not justified in what they do-fine-really.

If you disagree with what Israel does in offence or defense just because they are Israeli, I.E. Jewish" then you are being Anti-Semitic".

I have made my feelings very clear in my posts on these matters. What bothers/scares me is people are very quick to say anyone who disagrees with what or how Israel does things is "Anti-Semitic".

Please people be clear on its meaning.



posted on Nov, 5 2004 @ 10:18 AM
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as mentioned by Pisky
Is the Israeli Army targeting children ?


Selecto-vision 101:
Seen or read any of this?
PA Childrens Death Cult Education

This?
Eight years old and armed with AK47s - these are the latest Palestinian militants

Maybe this?
Palestinians glorify child 'martyrs'


Question:
Do you have any problems when the Palestinian's use children?



seekerof



posted on Nov, 5 2004 @ 11:23 PM
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one question.

what does child combatants have to do with this case? is it enough to say that because some kids are capable of such acts, that all children have become valid targets

was the little girl armed? no.

so why did he shoot her? this was a clear case of the israeli soldier targeting an unarmed child



posted on Nov, 5 2004 @ 11:30 PM
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Originally posted by Gazrok
Agreed, but only ONE side uses children as combatants, and that side isn't Israel...


I agree with that. I don't care who you are man, woman or child..... you point a gun at me Im taking your head off.



posted on Nov, 5 2004 @ 11:35 PM
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If you are an Israeli, when men with guns start shooting in the streets, you hide your children in the bomb shelter.

If you are a Palestinian, when men with guns start shooting in the streets, you send your kids out into the streets to throw rocks at them.

Perhaps a bit oversimplified, but not more oversimplified than the false and self-discrediting hypothesis that Israelis are hunting down Palestinian children like game animals.

People who love their children don't strap bombs onto them and send them away to make other children die with them. They also don't teach them to throw rocks at soldiers in a battlezone.



posted on Nov, 6 2004 @ 12:22 AM
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That whole area is a mess. From another source:

She walked past her school, crossed the road and climbed down a small sandy bank to an area that was an olive and citrus orchard until the army's bulldozers flattened it in April and declared a "forbidden zone", added the mass circulation.
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Forbidden zone. Perhaps the Israelis thought she had a bomb hidden in her school satchel. No excuse for the officers' actions.

Sad nonetheless.




posted on Nov, 7 2004 @ 05:30 PM
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While individual soldiers may target children purposely, I cannot believe it is official policy. I mean, all it does is strengthen the resolve of the Palestinians every time a child is killed.



posted on Dec, 4 2004 @ 02:58 PM
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Originally posted by Gazrok

Both of them are at fault for the violence in that reigon.


Agreed, but only ONE side uses children as combatants, and that side isn't Israel...


no...israel uses tanks and helicopters against BOTH palestinian fighters and palestinian innocents. Jenin, anyone?

The arch-terrorist Sharon must be held to account, and his reckoning will come.

[edit on 4-12-2004 by General Zapata]





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