Originally posted by jdub297
reply to post by timewarpedbrain7
well idk about you but I look my doors so criminals don't take my possession's. I close my blinds so criminals don't scoop my things out.
but I do close my door for privacy so you got me there.
You might want to consider your local law. Last year, the Indiana Supreme Court ruled that citizens have NO RIGHT to defend themselves from the
unlawful entry of their homes by law enforcement.
Man, the citizen's rights are determined by the citizen's action, not by the opinion of the servants of the law hired by said citizens.
Here's the slogan I believe in...
"We the people are the law, we make the law by our actions. It is we the people who decide to accept or reject any man made law put down on paper
somewhere by someone. The people who write down these laws, interpret them, and enforce them, are just hired help. They work for us. We the people do
not do anything illegal. Not withstanding the fact that this is so, in the implementation of social order, we submit ourselves, upon occasion, to the
judgement of others who may disagree with us, to keep the peace."
The importance of this "We the People" doctrine, is that it is we who tell the government what the law is, not the other way around.
Throughout history, many nation states have repeatedly had revolutions, as the people rose up against unjust rulers and unjust laws.
Men sat down and examined the problem, and came to the conclusion that the "separation of powers" was the solution.
The three powers " power to make the law", " power to interpret the law", and " power to enforce the law", needed to be kept separate. Any
fusing of these powers into one body, would lead mankind back to the early days when unscrupulous rulers could impose injustice on the people, forcing
them to eventually revolt to remove the ruler.
The Founding Fathers put this requirement of separation of the three powers into the US Constitution.
Each citizen has the three powers vested in him. Each citizen has the power to make law, interpret law, and enforce law. Yes, you can make a citizen's
arrest. You can even arrest a cop, whom you deem is breaking the law.
If the citizen did not already have these three powers, he couldn't hire servants and empower them to act on his behalf. The cop gets his powers of
arrest from the citizen. The citizen gives the cop these powers, and can take them back at any time.
The citizen gives the judge the power to interpret the law, and can take back that power at any time.
The citizen gives the legislators the power to make and write the law, and can take back that power at any time.
When the citizen "hires" these servants of the law to make, interpret, and enforce, the laws, he does not give up his rights to do so. The only
difference between the citizen and the servant, is that the servant is "obligated" to make, interpret, and enforce, the laws. But, the citizen has
complete "discretion" when and if to do so. The citizen has the right, but not the obligation. The servants have the obligation.
A policeman seeing a crime, must enforce the law. But an ordinary citizen seeing a crime can walk away, and not get involved. The police do not have
the right to look the other way. But, the citizen does. The citizen pays people to take risks, that he may not want to take. But, if the citizen feels
up to it, he has the right to get involved and make arrests, just like the cop.
The importance of this, is that any cop breaking the law can be arrested by the citizen who witnesses the crime. This includes a cop illegally
attempting to arrest or harassing the citizen himself. If citizens enforced their rights more often, all the problems we see of the servants
overstepping their bounds would disappear. It is because the citizens do not typically enforce their rights, that the servants have come to believe
that they have more powers than they really do.
If you have a right, that you don't practice exercising, then over time, the effectiveness of that right diminishes, because everybody adjusts their
attitudes and beliefs by the practice of social behavior, and by habit, people come to believe in things that are not so. You never lose the right.
But, there's always difficulty getting people to accept that you have that right, because they can always point to tradition -- when have you ever
seen someone exercise this right?...etc...Yet, the right is inherent in the Constitution itself, implicit in the "granting of powers" to the servants.
You cannot grant a power to someone else if you don't have that power. So, for the legislature, judiciary, and executive branches of government to
exist, the citizen must have the three powers to grant to them. People just need to exercise their powers more often.
edit on 8-5-2013 by
SQUEALER because: (no reason given)