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Stephen Hawking joins academic boycott of Israel

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posted on May, 8 2013 @ 02:54 PM
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posted on May, 8 2013 @ 02:57 PM
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Stephen Hawking doing this will have no bearing on absolutely anything. Am I wrong?



posted on May, 8 2013 @ 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by Spiramirabilis
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Is this how you see your God, your Lord - your faith?

A barbaric god - for a barbaric people?

Christianity: you're doing it wrong

(My sincere apologies to all true Christians)

Meanwhile - Hawking is speaking out against injustice - not Jews. Pay attention


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This is how a true Christian would speak. Clearly love your enemies, do good to those who are against you, turn the other cheek, I never see it! No wonder people are turned off by religions.

Stephen Hawking speech:

n another observation of modern religion, Hawking noted that in the 1980s, around the time he released a paper discussing the moment the universe was born, Pope John Paul II admonished the scientific establishment against studying the moment of creation, as it was holy.



He noted that many people still seek a divine solution to counter the theories of curious physicists, and at one point, he quipped, “What was God doing before the divine creation? Was he preparing hell for people who asked such questions?”


www.space.com...

I can see why he would feel as he does.



posted on May, 8 2013 @ 03:05 PM
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If Israel is wrong, it is wrong. We cannot simply go on supporting them, just because "they are Israel and we are America, and America supports Isreal" This is craziness!


While I agree with your sentiments, I'd like to add clarification. The nasty things being done by Israel are in no way representative of all Israelis, or Jews for that matter. So when someone like me says I don't support Israel, I'm saying I don't support some of the actions of their government. I DO support their right to a peaceful and free life, I DO support their right to protect themselves from attackers, and I do support their right to take proactive measures to ensure the safety of their population.
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I actually do agree with you, everyone has the right to live in peace, but what I said was "IF" they are wrong in this and they attacked these people without cause -- that just telling me that I am American and I must except everything that Israel does, because that is what good Americans do, is going to be wearing a little thin.

As I also said was that I wish these people could just get along, so we don't have to choose, and we can be on everyone's side.


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posted on May, 8 2013 @ 03:07 PM
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Originally posted by undo
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What happened to JUDGE NOT?


good point! the only problem i have with it, as a thinking human being, is the implication that i'm just supposed to sit here and ignore the derogatory references to the size of my intellect. it's really unnecessary, definitely inflammatory, and adds nothing to your point other than an opportunity to propagandize your readers. it's been established, in every conceivable way, that you can't prove or disprove it using the current set of evidences, so it's just 2 sides of the same coin. how either could claim to have the superior intellectual position, is a real head scratcher.


No implication, simple as it is if you are Christian this is what you are told to do. No ego, no pride, no stand but waiting for the one who says, Judgement is mine. I am not a religious person, the persons using their religious arguments seem not to have read the book they supposedly follow. I have read it.

I am continuously stumped by the actions of those who keep saying they follow and wish to be as Jesus.



posted on May, 8 2013 @ 03:13 PM
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Most of the British Establishment have been Anti-Semites from time immemorial. The New Model Army tried to reform the class system there but sadly they were not successful.



posted on May, 8 2013 @ 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by EarthEvolves
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Most of the British Establishment have been Anti-Semites from time immemorial. The New Model Army tried to reform the class system there but sadly they were not successful.



Not so.

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on May, 8 2013 @ 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by paxnatus
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Is this really news? A man who has done nothing but deny God's existence and, now he is speaking out against Israel in support of the Palestinians this is "news worthy" to you? No he is not anti Semitic he is anti Christ.



Pax


A simple question. Where does faith stop? The people who believed that the earth was siting on the back of a turtle for instance. Now we certainly can see their religious belief was wrong. Some people have a much better understanding of what reality is then others.



posted on May, 8 2013 @ 03:29 PM
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I said "Anti-Semite" not necessarily Anti-Zionist. Gathering people together in one place and then generating hate against them is a great way to ruin their day.



posted on May, 8 2013 @ 03:30 PM
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Originally posted by Char-Lee

Originally posted by paxnatus
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Is this really news? A man who has done nothing but deny God's existence and, now he is speaking out against Israel in support of the Palestinians this is "news worthy" to you? No he is not anti Semitic he is anti Christ.



Pax


A simple question. Where does faith stop? The people who believed that the earth was siting on the back of a turtle for instance. Now we certainly can see their religious belief was wrong. Some people have a much better understanding of what reality is then others.


The Earth doesn't rest on the back of a turtle? Really?



posted on May, 8 2013 @ 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by jessejamesxx

Originally posted by paxnatus
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Is this really news? A man who has done nothing but deny God's existence and, now he is speaking out against Israel in support of the Palestinians this is "news worthy" to you? No he is not anti Semitic he is anti Christ.

Pax


What is anti Christ about supporting Palestinians over Israel? You realize that Jews don't believe in Jesus either, right?

Also, what is anti Christ about speaking out against oppressors in a foreign land? Yes, Palestine fights back, but they're having their land stolen from them. Israel is the stronger force, that has the power to stop all of the violence and come to terms, they're slowly eradicating the Palestinians until there is none left.

Do you also think that it was Christ-like for Europeans to annihilate the native americans for their land?



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I've covered this map before. I can't be bothered to re-type it all again, so here's the link to my post;

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on May, 8 2013 @ 04:21 PM
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I am confused about the 1946 map because the PLO always claims that those Jews who were in "Palestine" before independence counted as Palestinians. By denoting "Jewish land" this map is suggesting that is not the case.



posted on May, 8 2013 @ 04:44 PM
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Originally posted by EarthEvolves
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I am confused about the 1946 map because the PLO always claims that those Jews who were in "Palestine" before independence counted as Palestinians. By denoting "Jewish land" this map is suggesting that is not the case.



Indeed, anyone living in Palestine could have called themselves Palestinian, although the Arabs living in the area wouldn't start using that name for another 20yrs. The white areas on the 1946 map show the areas that had been purchased outright by the Jews. It doesn't include parts of the former British Mandate that had a majority Jewish population.



posted on May, 8 2013 @ 04:49 PM
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Originally posted by Gary29

Originally posted by EarthEvolves
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I am confused about the 1946 map because the PLO always claims that those Jews who were in "Palestine" before independence counted as Palestinians. By denoting "Jewish land" this map is suggesting that is not the case.



Indeed, anyone living in Palestine could have called themselves Palestinian, although the Arabs living in the area wouldn't start using that name for another 20yrs. The white areas on the 1946 map show the areas that had been purchased outright by the Jews. It doesn't include parts of the former British Mandate that had a majority Jewish population.


Does this mean that the PLO lied when they said that the Jews present in the Land before independence were "Palestinians"? I thought that Arafat was a freedom-fighter who always told the truth?

First the turtle and now this!
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posted on May, 8 2013 @ 05:31 PM
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Originally posted by undo

Originally posted by OutonaLimb
make no mistake, israel was made to be broken.
hawking is part of the establishment and is now towing the line the 'party' wants him to.

expect main stream israeli connections to be made to 9/11 in the near future.

but don't forget that it is all theatre.
and try to remember that 9/11 was a fakery extravaganza.

this is all longsince scripted in advance. make no bones about it.


my thoughts exactly. but who is leading the scripters? anybody/anything in particular?
or is it just a loosely joined group of conspirators?





ah, the 6.4 kazillion dollar question.

the bigger question is, are we dealing with a comedy or a tragedy?

i know what i think.

ever heard of michael jackson? he has a role to play in all this, i now believe.



posted on May, 8 2013 @ 05:48 PM
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Let me just state for the record that I am using sarcasm to oppose Islamo-Fascism. I am not a neo-conservative, because for one thing I oppose their "democracy" agenda as mere shillery. But if you want to call me a neo-conservative for the simple act of saying that Zionism is far more benevolent than an Islamic world caliphate then go ahead. I could care less.

Oh, and yes, I will be promoting Scientific Turtle-ism at some point soon.



posted on May, 8 2013 @ 05:54 PM
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Wow, the Israelis will be devastated.



When Hawking's dies next month and finds out what's on the other side of life I wonder how foolish he'll feel trying to use his mind to explain away the multiple dimensions he sees of which we are only one. That would make his life's work the most useless of many modern humans.



posted on May, 8 2013 @ 06:52 PM
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if your not joking then you are the biggest fool there is -_-
seriously

The man is a Genius and even before this I thought highly of his work and this just increases my respect for him

when people post rubbish like this I think to myself now these religious people who go out and pray and thank their gods when something good happens
but when something bad happens its just a test

when someone blows up a street or building, it must show if there is some sort of god he does not give a toss about you people. :\

end of the day Stephen hawkings theories hold more merit then most religious text and yes I have read most his work



posted on May, 8 2013 @ 07:07 PM
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If He was a real scientist he wouldnt let politics stand in the way of science and if people boycotted an islamic event like people are boycotting Israel they would be called Islamophobic. I lost all respect for Stephen Hawking.
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posted on May, 8 2013 @ 07:11 PM
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I think he's too far above the fray to be accused of being anti-Jewish. Besides, those accusations behind which there is no substance are ceasing to have the "desired" effect. Personally, I find it quite tiresome to be accused of being antisemitic when I venture forth to be critical of Israel's egregiously horrific treatment of the Palestinian peoples. I have never been nor am I now anti-any race or creed. Anyone who engages in pan-discrimination is pathetically ignorant and dangerous. That being said, I reserve the right to criticize individuals of whatever race, religion (or lack thereof) and governments who engage in anti-humane treatment of individuals or large numbers of people.

By their actions, the Israelis are being judged--but I'm doubtful that any thinking person is directing criticism at Mr. or Mrs. Joe Jewish; rather, it's the Israeli government towards which our arrows are aimed. They've lost their coin--as has the U.S. which once was considered the proverbial knight on a white horse. Well, several administrations have put that one to rest, now haven't they? I could say the same about Canada--ah yes, the country once renowned for being the world's peace keepers. And what have we now become? Officially, we're autonomous. In reality, we are a puppet state of the U.S. Now how ignoble is that?! Yep, the red/white/blue and the red/white have fallen from grace--and smartly scrambled our collective brains. Check out our modern "culture" and shudder at its absurdity, mindlessness and worse, callousness. We're being systematically subjected to "entertainment" which has been designed to inure us to pain, embarrassment, and the ridicule of others. Make no mistake. The propaganda machine has been ramped up exponentially in the last 10 years.

Yes, we need more Stephen Hawkings to speak out. Currently, all we're doing is building up a collasal network of enemies. Do the psychopaths not see the consequences of their actions?! Apparently not!



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