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Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Hey now, let's not let the facts of the matter get in the way of legislating here.
and we pay these bums to do what ??, make bills that do nothing but cause fear and hate, No one is to blame but the voter or non voter for this mess.
Status
This bill was assigned to a congressional committee on April 23, 2013, which will consider it before possibly sending it on to the House or Senate as a whole.
Progress
Introduced Apr 23, 2013
Referred to Committee Apr 23, 2013
Reported by Committee ...
Passed Senate ...
Passed House ...
Signed by the President ...
Prognosis
8% chance of getting past committee.
2% chance of being enacted.
Only 12% of Senate bills made it past committee and only 2% were enacted in 2011–2013. [show factors | methodology]
Originally posted by bekod
reply to post by thisguyrighthere
8% chance of passing out of committee 2% chance of passing?? an other brainless bill that will die a death it so well deserves www.govtrack.us... from the linkand we pay these bums to do what ??, make bills that do nothing but cause fear and hate, No one is to blame but the voter or non voter for this mess.
Status
This bill was assigned to a congressional committee on April 23, 2013, which will consider it before possibly sending it on to the House or Senate as a whole.
Progress
Introduced Apr 23, 2013
Referred to Committee Apr 23, 2013
Reported by Committee ...
Passed Senate ...
Passed House ...
Signed by the President ...
Prognosis
8% chance of getting past committee.
2% chance of being enacted.
Only 12% of Senate bills made it past committee and only 2% were enacted in 2011–2013. [show factors | methodology]
Between the years of 1993 and 2011, as the assault weapons ban expired, more Americans purchased guns, the Supreme Court overturned outright gun bans, and individual states not only loosed gun control restrictions but also issued concealed carry permits to private citizens, incidents of gun violence in America collapsed. Between 1993 and 2011, nonfatal gun crimes plummeted 69%; from 1.5 million to 467,300. Gun-related murders dropped 40%; from 18,253 to 11,101. Gun-related murders for black Americans plummeted by 51%. The report also shows that the media-created hysteria over school shootings is wildly misleading. Between '93 and '11, the murder rate in schools dropped by almost a third; from 29 to 20. Background checks have also been exposed as another bogus narrative the media's crafted out of thin air. This report proves beyond any doubt that closing the so-called gun show loophole will accomplish next to nothing. Less than one-percent of state prisoners caught with a gun purchased it at a gun show. Moreover, who knows how many of those criminals might have passed or did pass a background check.
Originally posted by camaro68ss
This will not stop future bombings. These people that we call our leaders are dumb
Originally posted by phishyblankwaters
reply to post by thisguyrighthere
Well on the one hand....
I find myself agreeing with some extended type of pre-screening when you are dealing with explosives. you can't go buy enough chemicals to make meth without getting on a watch list, you can't buy nitrate fertilizer in amounts sufficient to make a bomb without getting on a watch list (unless you are smart about it I suppose) so I don't see this as a surprise really.
The kids at columbine used homemade pipe bombs and propane tank explosives, the Boston idiots used black powder and pressure cookers.
But yeah, reading your OP a few things smack me in the face. I guess only time will tell how this is implemented will be the key.
And no, I don't think your T-shirt will disqualify you. Then again, a picture of Megatron got a guy tossed off a plane, so who the hell knows anymore.
the tie in with the terrorist watch list, on it's face makes sense... But when you understand that the list is over a million, and plenty of average, law abiding citizens are on it.....
Maybe you guys are onto something. I still don't think it's two skips away from dictatorship, but yeah, it does appear to be following an agenda.
Originally posted by pauljs75
May as well require a special license to buy lead acid batteries too, because sulfuric acid as part of a process to make nitric acid which isn't that complicated. And once you get the second one, you've completed a main chemistry step in being able to make any kind of explodey stuff.
Example of the chemistry at work...
Example of some explodey stuff being made...
Sure restrictions on certain explosive materials will slow down doing anything quick and in bulk, but some people have lots of time to spare and where there's a will there's a way. And even if other materials were made more difficult to access, it would be rather difficult to stop people from learning chemistry or obtaining more raw natural sources like eggs (sulfur) and bird poo (nitrates). Which is great, because then you'll have people messing with much more unsafe and unstable materials than ready-made and process controlled manufactured explosives.