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Originally posted by bloodreviara
Also if i were satan, i would have written the bible myself, what
better way to confuse and ensure that no one, no matter how
devout could ever be saved than to make the book, that is
to be the guide, so confusing no one can even understand how
to actually be saved, in all honesty no matter how you look at
the bible it is more of a tool for control and confusion of purpose
than anything else.
Originally posted by bloodreviara
Every religion speaks as if the others are all wrong, as if the
many different denominations of their own faith are all wrong,
and as if they got it right, its just plain old human ego, same
as it was with Greek mythology, same as it was with the insane
denomination of christianity that believed they must cut off all
their genitalia and womens breasts because that is what made
them impure etc. etc. etc.
Originally posted by ShadellacZumbrum
reply to post by Angle
Should this be posted in the General Conspiracies Forum?
After reading that I can only imagine that you are going to have a particularly hard time getting a billion or so Christians to believe that Gobbledygook.
'Luke is a historian of first rank. ...This author should be placed along with the very greatest of historians.'
William M. Ramsay, The Bearing of Recent Discovery on the Trustworthiness of the New Testament (London: Hodder and Stoughton, 1915). p.222.
"we can certainly say to be historical is that there were resurrection appearances in Galilee (and in Jerusalem) soon after Jesus' death...these appearances cannot be denied."
Gerd Lüdemann, What Really Happened to Jesus: A Historical Approach to the Resurrection, trans. John Bowden (Louisville, Kentucky: Westminster John Knox Press, 1996).p.81. Similar assessments amongst scholars are the norm. Ed Sanders declares that the "equally secure facts [indicate that Jesus' disciples] saw him (in what sense is not certain) after his death... .Thereafter his followers saw him."(E. P. Sanders, The Historical Figure of Jesus (London: Penguin, 1993). pp.10, 13).
"The mesit is someone who seduces an individual to idolatry, whereas the maddiah is understood as someone who publicly entices many into idolatry. Jesus, the Talmud tells us, was both: he not only enticed some individual but all of Israel to become idolaters. To make things worse, he was also a sorcerer in the sense defined more precisely in the Mishna: someone who really practices magic and not just “holds people’s eyes” (ha-'ohez et ha'enayim), that is, who deludes people by optical deception (which is permitted)"
Schäfer, Jesus in the Talmud. Kindle Locations 1325-1330.
"It is not clear why historiography should not in principle be able to speak about Jesus' resurrection as the explanation that is best established" the "phenomenon undeniably attested by the New Testament, rips a great hole in history, a hole the size and shape of the Resurrection"
Wolfhart Pannenberg, Jesus - God and Man, trans. Lewis L. Wilkins and Duane A. Priebe, 2nd ed. (Philadelphia, Pennsylvania: Westminster Press, 1977). p.109.; Charles F. D. Moule, The Phenomenon of the New Testament: A Inquiry into the Implications of Certain Features of the New Testament (London: S.C.M. Press, 1967). p.3.
Originally posted by slugger9787
reply to post by bloodreviara
Have you ever heard of the
psychological defense mechanism called
Your psychology reveals a snapshot of that.
If you have such disdain and contempt for
the topic discussed in this thread, then why are you here?
Why are you REACTING, and why do you always REACT
in the same way to similar threads?
Reaction Formation: A defense mechanism where an individual acts in a manner opposite from his or her unconscious beliefs. A homosexual who joined a gay hate group would be an example of reaction formation. Freud believed that defense mechanisms helped us cope with the world around us by letting us repress our deepest unconscious fears.
Read more: www.alleydog.com...edit on 7-5-2013 by slugger9787 because: (no reason given)