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The true Florida results : what Kerry (yes, Kerry) hides

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posted on Nov, 4 2004 @ 09:19 PM
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Kerry hiding that he won in Florida, since he role was not winning.

ustogether.org...
These numbers say it all.

You know the trick when they organise blind tasting tests for wine writers, don't you ?
In Florida they didn't even do that ...

Now if you ask yourself : why doesn't Kerry contest this grotesque fraud insted of conceading defeat, try remembering what did you ask yourself as Kerry admitted to be part of the same satanic secret society as his "oppositor" ...

Do you remember Edwards repeating that "every vote counts and every vote will be counted" ? Yes, that was the role of Kerry/Edwards ... like the role of Bush and Gore in 2000, contesting for weeks the results, was to make people believe that it was necessary to "invest" in Diebold machines next time.



[edit on 7-11-2004 by John bull 1]




posted on Nov, 4 2004 @ 09:26 PM
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I knew it would be something............

LOOK BUSH WON, HE ALSO WON THE POPULAR VOTE.


There is no satanic conspiracy.............



posted on Nov, 4 2004 @ 09:34 PM
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There is no satanic conspiracy.............


Who told you that? Fox news?



posted on Nov, 4 2004 @ 09:37 PM
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Originally posted by aukaiman55
Who told you that? Fox news?


Who told you there was? Some guy on Coast to Coast AM hocking his new book?



posted on Nov, 4 2004 @ 09:38 PM
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Originally posted by Esoterica

Originally posted by aukaiman55
Who told you that? Fox news?


Who told you there was? Some guy on Coast to Coast AM hocking his new book?


No man ATS, there are no quacks here



posted on Nov, 4 2004 @ 09:39 PM
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO!

I voted in St. Johns County.

There were NO DIEBOLD MACHINES!

what exactly are "expected numbers" anyway?

(I expected Kerry to win, therefor I will manufacture some stats to support my delusion)



posted on Nov, 4 2004 @ 09:44 PM
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This topic shows that some users would do anything to get ATS points



posted on Nov, 4 2004 @ 09:47 PM
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What are ATS points worth anyway?

Is that like parking my new Hummer on the street for everyone to see?



posted on Nov, 4 2004 @ 10:18 PM
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Originally posted by moxyone
I voted in St. Johns County.
There were NO DIEBOLD MACHINES!


St. Johns County --> optical scanning

And that's the first criteria to proving that the wines that were supposed the same taste in fact very different (just computed the totals)

e-machine

reg rep: 2,050,619
exp turnout for reg rep: 1,435,385
reg rep who voted: 1,845,876
% turnout: 90%

reg dem: 2,280,374
exp turnout for reg dem: 1,567,297
reg dem who voted: 1,982,210
% turnout: 86.9%


optical scanning:

reg rep: 1,841,873
exp turnout for reg rep: 1,428,220
reg rep who voted: 1,950,213
% turnout: 105.88%

reg dem: 1,980,875
exp turnout for reg dem: 1,503,404
reg dem who voted: 1,445,675
% turnout: 72.98%



posted on Nov, 5 2004 @ 02:53 PM
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Originally posted by MattMarriott
Kerry hiding that he won in Florida, since he role was not winning.
Do you remember Edwards repeating that "every vote counts and every vote will be counted" ? Yes, that was the role of Kerry/Edwards ... like the role of Bush and Gore in 2000, contesting for weeks the results, was to make people believe that it was necessary to "invest" in Diebold machines next time.


In Europe, the night before the elections, each NATO country made sure that there was the possibility to see Fahrenheit 9/11 - broadcasted at prime time.
The reason is obvious, right ?



posted on Nov, 7 2004 @ 03:03 PM
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The obvious reason
www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Nov, 7 2004 @ 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by MattMarriott
Kerry hiding that he won in Florida, since he role was not winning.

ustogether.org...
These numbers say it all.



On the analysis pages for the data there is almost
irrefutable evidence for vote rigging. See the scatter
plot for example. After studying the data I obtained a
map of the counties looking for any reasons there might
be a demographic shift by county of the voting
populations that might explain the optical scanner
results as compared to the E-machines.. but the
counties are not designated by any means that might
make only those with optical scanners vote mostly for
Bush. So could the decision about which counties
would have scanners been made on the basis that those
particular counties were known Republican enclaves?
Again no evidence to support that contention.

A problem with trying to prove anything to the
American people is that most of them are math
illiterate, and the data does require being able to
comprehend what data analysis is and what the
results mean.

I posted the web site with that data on one of the
Goggle news groups and had *zero* response.
Unfortunately for most people who frequent news
groups they have become a social setting to carry
on the same meaningless babble that has become
seemingly the rule rather than the exception in
discussions about most subjects in the US. How few
seem to know how to research a subject. We see it
all the time on the Internet where even when references,
citations, or links are provided to support a position
replies are obviously made, when they are made at
all, without anyone actually studying any of it.
Instead just responses derived from emotion, and
ignorance.

Thus as unlikely as it seems that the election results would
be overturned even if vote rigging was demonstrated, if the
elections were fraudulent then this may be the last
presidential election the US will have.



[edit on 7-11-2004 by mockan]



posted on Nov, 7 2004 @ 05:19 PM
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See, the problem with replying in these threads is that someone will undoubtedly come back and say you're a nut case, or some radio show is getting to you. Be that as it may, i will tell you i believe that Kerry no more wanted to be president than i do, and that this whole election process was a sham. Kerry was in on this illusion. I realized it when he conceded, it didnt take a rocket scientist to figure out that when you have thousands of lawyers in place, as important as this election was to us and the entire world, and the rumors of fraud at most every state, you dont simply hand down the presidency immediately in this day and age without having an investigation first.
Specially with Bush's track record.
So i believe that this was all a sham.



posted on Nov, 7 2004 @ 09:16 PM
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Originally posted by dgtempe
See, the problem with replying in these threads is that someone will undoubtedly come back and say you're a nut case, or some radio show is getting to you. Be that as it may, i will tell you i believe that Kerry no more wanted to be president than i do, and that this whole election process was a sham. Kerry was in on this illusion. I realized it when he conceded, it didnt take a rocket scientist to figure out that when you have thousands of lawyers in place, as important as this election was to us and the entire world, and the rumors of fraud at most every state, you dont simply hand down the presidency immediately in this day and age without having an investigation first.
Specially with Bush's track record.
So i believe that this was all a sham.


I think your conclusions are reasonable. But given the
nature of a fraud of this enormous scope I suspect the
perpetrators are acting possibly without the knowledge
of the candidates. Perhaps in compartmentalized
groups such that both political parties would be able to
disavow any responsibility or even knowledge of their
actions. This comes back to a recurring question.. Who
exactly constitutes the "Central" authority directing the
world towards Globalism? And why not go with an
Internationalist like Kerry now, rather than have four
more years of Bushism, then endure someone like
Hillary? The schooling system has been directed for
decades to create a generation of young voters
sufficiently dumbed down about the Founding Fathers
vision of the USA as a Constitutional Republic and
conditioned to a liberal world view, for exactly the
purpose of backing an internationalist US president and
that has been accomplished as revealed by the
overwhelming number of young voters for Kerry. I
wonder if the Bush and neocon faction of globalists
maybe actually have enough power to confront the
Elitists backing the UN faction, and keep the US as the
dominating world power. But you make a good point.
With the evidence for voter machine fraud that will
continue to increase in the days ahead, why did Kerry
concede so quickly? I wish I had more information
about the computer programs being run helping the
Elitists in their decision making processes on how to
best accomplish their goals. Just too many variables to
get a clear picture about what they are up to right now.
Perhaps they decided the time is not yet ripe.. maybe
they think the US still has too much influence over the
world and its' allies must be made to desire more
distance from backing US foreign policies. Or too
many citizens still think their vote means something
even when both candidates have the same agenda and
goals for Elitists without regard for the people except to
minimize any effort the people might make to stop the
process of Globalism. And how does this administrations
religious zealotry come into this? The New World
Order seeks a variation of Gaia as the new world
religion, not Jesus followers. It is a puzzle but as with
all things political all we need do is seek out who
benefits and discover their affiliations, and the answers
will become clear.




[edit on 7-11-2004 by mockan]



posted on Nov, 9 2004 @ 12:13 AM
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Kerry was in on this illusion. I realized it when he conceded, it didnt take a rocket scientist to figure out that when you have thousands of lawyers in place, as important as this election was to us and the entire world, and the rumors of fraud at most every state, you dont simply hand down the presidency immediately in this day and age without having an investigation first.
Specially with Bush's track record.


November 8 - apparently it is the first news story on the obvious - Olbermann claiming that the election result is in doubt due to voter fraud in OH and FL.
16 minutes, Olbermann brought a reporter from OH and Rep. John Conyers.
The reason why this was shown is obvious, right ?

home.comcast.net...



posted on Nov, 9 2004 @ 01:05 AM
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Originally posted by MattMarriott
In Europe, the night before the elections, each NATO country made sure that there was the possibility to see Fahrenheit 9/11 - broadcasted at prime time. The reason is obvious, right ?


Excuse me sir, (and I use the term loosely) I would like to know where got this information? I would like to see the proof of where Mr. Moores sham was given the opportunity to be aired.

You cannot! Because your statement is not true. You sir are nothing but full of useless dribble. Please take your weightless words and untruths someplace else. I think an X-box forum might be more suited place for you to spread your gibberish.



posted on Nov, 9 2004 @ 08:01 AM
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It aired on the first of November on the german network "Pro 7"
And the reason is obvious. Nobody would watch the movie in a couple of years or if Kerry won.



posted on Nov, 9 2004 @ 08:55 AM
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Ich habe deutsches Fernsehen und ich habe gesehen kein Werbung fur dieses . Ich habe Sky auch und dieselben



posted on Nov, 9 2004 @ 08:59 AM
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posted on Nov, 9 2004 @ 09:12 AM
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Mr Tsuribito has brought to my attention that one Nato country has indeed given it's viewers the possiblity to see Mr. Moores "artwork" so, I stand corrected (to an extent). If solid evidence can be brought forth to counter my previous statement, I will be more than happy to issue a formal appology to Mr. MattMarriott.

My dad sas I hav to git off of thu computer now and go too bed now



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