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Originally posted by SinMaker
reply to post by eLPresidente
Buy a vehicle in Georgia and try to get it legal in Florida. You will pay your taxes according to the state dictates. I've lived in many different states, you can not get around sales taxes on vehicles. Ever.
Rep. Thomas Massie has penned a letter in defense of internet freedom – and he’s looking for support.
Under the guise of a “Marketplace Fairness Act,” big-government politicians are colluding with big-business to levy taxes on internet purchases. Not only would this legislation boost the tax bill for America’s consumers, it would slow down an already stagnant economy. Our job creators are already hampered by aggressive regulations – they simply can’t afford more bureaucratic red tape.
Rep. Massie wrote a letter to Speaker Boehner and Leader Cantor, urging them to oppose this Internet Tax bill in the House. Let’s try to rally up more support. Get on the phone with Reps. Mick Mulvaney, Ron DeSantis, Andy Barr, and Tom Graves. Ask them to sign Massie’s letter. These are some of the most principled, conservative members of Congress, and they would make fantastic allies for Rep. Massie.
Call one of the trustworthy members of Congress below, and urge them to sign on to Massie’s letter!
Originally posted by eLPresidente
Now it is up to the House of Reps, will they bow down to big government?
List of senators that voted for this new sales tax in link below.
At first some people might say, yes! internet companies should be taxed (include sales tax) just like business owners across the country who are subjected to their local state sales taxes. I would argue that we should NEVER encourage setting the precedent for more taxes, ever!
If we want to be more fair to small business owners, we should be introducing and supporting legislation that LOWERS sales taxes for business owners who currently suffer. It is not the business owners' fault that some states are SO deep in DEBT that they constantly have to raise taxes/sales taxes to keep up with their own WRECK-LESS spending.
How about something like a state government that is so fiscally responsible and efficient that they can even generate revenue and RETURN it to the PEOPLE? wow what a concept!
Maybe this illustration would help put things in perspective.
See who voted, here:
I'm glad Rand Paul fought this bill, I received several action alerts from him in the recent weeks about calling my senators and asking them to vote no. My senators are Feinstein and Boxer in California, it is an extremely rare occurrence where they actually agree with Senator Rand Paul.edit on 6-5-2013 by eLPresidente because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ntech
Hasn't anyone figured out that this new sales tax act is unconstitutional? Here's why.
Article 1 sec. 10 para. 2
No State shall, without the Consent of the Congress, lay any Imposts or Duties on Imports or Exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for executing it's inspection Laws: and the net Produce of all Duties and Imposts, laid by any State on Imports or Exports, shall be for the Use of the Treasury of the United States; and all such Laws shall be subject to the Revision and Controul of the Congress.
The problem here is that imported goods which make up most of the internet sales are immune to state taxes including sales taxes. While they can actually collect them the problem is that the revenue belongs to the Federal Treasury. They are not allowed to keep it!
This new sales tax collection effort is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. They only way the states can collect and keep the revenue is by a Constitutional Amendment!
When did we lose OUR RIGHT to state tax free imported goods????
Originally posted by dolphinfan
This will absolutely hammer small businesses. The law would impact any business with gross sales - gross sales not profit of over $1M/year which means it would hit millions of small businesses.
These small businesses will now be forced to collect sales taxes for the country’s 9,600 state and local tax jurisdictions. These firms will be subject to both state and federal audits, must file monthly or quarterly tax returns to all 46 states that have no sales tax. It is a better decision to either keep your gross sales below $1M, exactly the same incentive ObamaCare gives when you get hammered if you hire the 50th employee who works full-time. Easy solution to that one - don't hire the 50th or cut a bunch of folks hours so that you don't have to participate in ObamaCare.
If one of these businesses sells something to someone in NYC, they would have to keep track of federal, NY State and NYC tax. Three different administrative transactions for one sale. This also includes all of the required record retention requirements and other associated practices which will be mandated by this law.
How in the world can some small company that sells something on-line that has a dozen employees comply with this administrative burden? They can't. There is no way they can. They will need a team of folks (or hire someone else) to do that. The sheer volume of audits will require almost a full time audit team to prepare for audits, conduct internal audits to ensure proper controls are in place, etc. I have sat across the table from federal auditors and regulators and it is without a doubt not a joke nor a pleasant experience.
If I had a small business with over $1M in gross sales, I would do one of 4 things.
1. Wind the business down so that the gross sales were under $1M
2. Split the firm into multiple corporate entities, each dealing with a subset of states or a subset of my total product offerings to get it below $1M.
3. Incorporate outside of the US
4. Sell the business
The one thing I would most definitely not do is comply with this lunacy. If they wanted to establish an internet sales tax, which they should not do, they could have come up with an aggregated tax level, say the average of all of the jurisdictions and made it flat.
It will not amount to a thing - thankfully this will never pass the house
Originally posted by SinMaker
This legislation will help mom and pop business's. It's hard to compete with the Amazon's in the world when they offer no tax on high (or even low) ticket items.
IMHO, this is a good thing. Those big internet warehouse business's bank on high volume and sliver profits. Now, they have to compete with the local retailer.
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
Ahhh.... I've come to learn that when a bill has "Fairness" in the name? The only thing it's going to be "Fair" to is the Government itself. We never see the nice end of that fair concept. Just the big blunt end where the sun don't shine.
I now have absolutely no reason to shop online when the same product exists in a real store, anywhere within driving distance. The only benefit left was a bit of savings. Now? The offset falls in favor of a real counter and human being to go raise hell with when it breaks or never works in the first place. Nice forward thinking there, Congress. Oh yeah.... regular brainiacs up there.
Originally posted by DoubleDNH
... but why does everyone not want to shop locally and help the people in your community... you should be doing this already if you ask me. Instead, you send your money off to parts unknown to god knows who and feed into big business.