Originally posted by all2human
reply to post by korathin
And you believe "Israel should annex the whole of Syria and push them into Iraq",and in the same breath calling me ignorant...Seriously?
Hate is not a word i often use ,how about you?
believe it or not what Israel did in Syria was an illegal act of war
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Wah, wah, wah...!!!
"The j00s are bombing everyone they iz teh bad guy bla bla bla"
You know what? Israel may come off the bad guy and people want to blame them, but here's a thought... How much respect do you have for the 25 year old
gangbanger who hands a Glock 9mm to a 10 year old and gets him to do the dirty work?
Not much? You don't say.
Now, if the police arrest that 10 year old, or, (worst case scenario) people will scream "OMG police is evil they shot a 10 year old dead."
Here's the thing about the ME, (And one could say the world over) most of the wars are fought by proxy. I think everyone got their lessons (education)
in warfare during the 1st and 2nd World Wars. It doesn't pay to have all out offensives, invading countries is straining on population, supplies,
production, and a host of other things.
Instead of invading the main target, you simply invade their weaker neighbour. Once you control enough area in the region you can choke out your enemy
with economic and trade sanctions.
On the other side, if you are the other "bad guy" you simply fight your offensive guerrilla style for the most part. You deny all active operations
against the big bad enemy (the real bad guy?) *(*1) You send discreet shipments of arms to the neighbours around your enemy, offer them oil or some
other riches you might have to persuade them. Maybe you just ask for religious allegiance. (That can't be true though 'cause we should all know
religion is a sham by now...) and you launch rockets into your enemy via proxy.
So you have proxy wars fighting all over the place. USA vs. Russia, fought in Afghanistan, also fought in Vietnam.
Though proxy wars have been known to escalate or be a part of something much bigger:
Spanish Civil War
A very famous conflict which exhibits patterns of a proxy war was the Spanish Civil War. The conflict that started between the Second Spanish Republic
and Francisco Franco's National Sindicalists soon involved Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy on the Spanish Nationalist side and the Soviet Union help on
the Spanish Republic's side. This war served as a useful proving ground for both the Axis and the Soviets to test equipment and tactics that would
later be employed in the Second World War.
*(1) Isn't everybody a bad guy these days? One person's evil villain is another's freedom fighter and all that, yadda yadda.
Some really disgusting examples has to be in Africa, where fighting for oil means hiring a bunch of mercenaries to come in, wipe out entire villages.
Sometimes that doesn't work though, sometimes the makeshift governments are already in control of the disputed oil zones, so wiping out a village
isn't enough, they need a whole new power structure loyal to your country? What can you do in such a situation as a foreign state with oodles of money
and arms? Well, you can fund/arm/facilitate the current opposition powers in the country. Simply arm a Warlord with lots and lots of guns, bombs,
rocket launchers and boy will they be happy. Make sure you give 'em a solid gold AK-47 too (Cause they really 'heart' those).
In an effort to appease their rich uncle Russia or America, they will rally up some child soldiers to your cause, overthrow the current puppet
government, and all the delicious oil contracts will be yours once the coup is successful. But it doesn't end there! Give 'em a billion dollars to
build a bridge to nowhere, (with compounded daily interest) and those warlords will divert and launder 99% of the money. That way, no bridge ever need
be built and the good citizens of "Shiza-Land" be in debt to you for an amount they can never pay back, they sell you the rest of their commodities
for cents on the dollar. Can't even make the interest payments? No problem! Whatever country has a controlling interest will give 250 Million in
Hahahahahaha, oh man, some of you actual thought that "Aide" was spent on the Africans/Egyptians/Syrians, etc...
Yeah, that money is used to pay interest payments. Sometimes, very rarely, they might even get to pay some of the principal off the loan. But not
The funniest part is how well documented the "aide" programs are of sending money that is never used what it's intended for. Yet, somehow that fact
slips by everyone.
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