Boy tries to rape mom, kills her, over Call of Duty ban.

Originally posted by Slugworth
reply to post by DaphneApollo

 

No, my kiddo is never allowed to play this or anything such....but he's aware from friends...

I used to tell my parents the same thing. I always wondered if they really believed me, or just wanted to believe.

So, do you think that kids are lying to their parent/parents about what they are playing? As I know some children are lying about it....mine is not....

1) Media already had a target they wanted to blame. This is not about video game, if that's the case every teen will be running around conducting violence. And COD does not have any rape involved, it is a shooter. If he already owns a weapon or the household has it, he is well trained on it or very familiar with it.

2) It seems this kid thought he would have a chance at not going to jail or less sentence if he blames mental illness. See how quick he blamed the illness, he knew he would have support of certain groups. Him blaming ADD is a safety net plan, something to fall back on, a trump card.

3) This is one sick kid, he should not be walking around among society. I played plenty of online games that made me "rage" but i would not rape my mom or... the worse i probably did was bang on my table or something.

Are we really this messed up of a society that we are blaming games for peoples bad actions? When I was a kid before these games I play now, they blamed gorey movies and bad horror films for murders and crimes. Now it's gun games, I've played CoD and Battlefield 3, hell have played the 1st person shooting game genre since it's conception from duck hunt. And I can assure you the only thing inside these games that can be considered hazardous is the flashing colored pixels could give some seizures.

Now where have we gone wrong, that we even remotely try to blame anyone other than the person who did the action? It's the person's experiences SUMED up throughout their life that forms their mental state, Not just their parents, their game choices, their favorite color.

How about we all GROW UP AND ACCEPT OUR ACTIONS AND MAYBE JUST MAYBE BE RESPONSIBLE FOR A CHANGE? There is a sickening trend in the world today, this coddling going on has got to stop, you are creating monsters who don't understand negative emotions because you help them avoid them so much so that when they happen they cannot or don't understand how to handle them.

What a little P O S

I bet you could see this coming a mile away in that family.
This is probably the type of kid that is allowed to backtalk his mother and father without any consequence...
I think the parents my be to blame for allowing this stupid behavior. I'd have beat my sons a$$ and took his damn PS3 or Xbox or whatever away for good for even trippin about 'playing' it.

lil puto.
he'll get his.

reply to post by Tranceopticalinclined


MILITARY SCHOOL for all Young folks.

After finding himself unable to follow through with the first act of violence, he used the rifle his mother had given him as a gift when he was 11-years-old.

Who the hell gives an 11 year old a rifle as a gift and not expecting domestic violence?

There are millions of boys and young men playing violent video games-if the games were to blame,i think we'd see a helluva lot more young men killing other people.Some people are just born not right in the head-and with that i don't mean ADHD,or any of the new syndromes.This reminds me of the book "Apt Pupil" by Stephen King.Its not the boy's fault he was born this way either,mind you,it's just one of those things.Among us we have the Ted Bundys,the Jeffrey Dahmers,and once-off killers like this boy.Shocking,very very sad and absolutely horrible-but unfortunately there will always be,and had always been,such ones among us.Long before games,or rap music,or anything else a finger can be pointed at as a "cause".Sometimes there is no cause,and its just a case of a crippled soul.

Of course folks will say that its the violent video game that drove him to do this. What I want to know is what meds/drugs had he been taking? Why was rape involved if this was a ragekilling?

Originally posted by Raxoxane
There are millions of boys and young men playing violent video games-if the games were to blame,i think we'd see a helluva lot more young men killing other people.Some people are just born not right in the head-and with that i don't mean ADHD,or any of the new syndromes.This reminds me of the book "Apt Pupil" by Stephen King.Its not the boy's fault he was born this way either,mind you,it's just one of those things.Among us we have the Ted Bundys,the Jeffrey Dahmers,and once-off killers like this boy.Shocking,very very sad and absolutely horrible-but unfortunately there will always be,and had always been,such ones among us.Long before games,or rap music,or anything else a finger can be pointed at as a "cause".Sometimes there is no cause,and its just a case of a crippled soul.

whoa.... EVERYONE has the ability to make CHOICES... even if he is mentally effin stupid and psycho. He made his damn choice.
Bet he wouldn't have even thought about that type of BS if his parents raised him better.
Sounds like he was a little spoiled BIT**

God damn it i'm ranked 10 in one of the master division sub divisons, this better not stop the release of the next COD or they will have alore more angry people to deal with/

He has threatened to kill his mother before,they buy him his own gun at 11 and allow him to play blood and gore video games,he has a tantrum at 13 over the video game,shoots his mum 20 times and attempts to rape her.

Umm WTF! where to begin? I don`t think I want to.

reply to post by DaphneApollo

So, do you think that kids are lying to their parent/parents about what they are playing? As I know some children are lying about it....mine is not....

I have no idea what your kid is doing, but my point was that you probably don't either if he is old enough to socialise with other kids his age. It is perfectly normal for a kid who reaches a certain age to lie to his parents about just about anything, just like it is perfectly normal for his parents believe he would never do such a thing. Its not a reflection of his character or yours. Its just a normal part of cutting the chord and developing into an adult. Has your kid ever been with his buddies and out of your view? If so, he probably did and said things that would never imagine he was capable of. Its a perfectly normal part of growing up.

Regarding the murderer kid, I have my own theory on why some people end up so far from normal...

Genetic mutations are not necessarily good or bad. The same process that drives evolution through positive effects of mutations also causes birth defects. You can't have one without the other because they come from the same mechanism.

Maybe some people are mental mutants. One person's mutation causes them to be mathematically gifted. Another person's mutation causes them to rape and kill their mom. It seems more plausible to me than any other explanation I have heard. It certainly makes more sense to me than "A game sold 500 bazillion copies, one kid killed his mom, the others were fine, blame the game."

Maybe we just have to take the good with the bad, and accept that we will get the occasional matricidal rapist springing from the same level of "crazy" that gives us cultural and scientific visionaries. Many of the people who made big contributions to culture and science were also considered crazy. They just happened to be crazy in a good way.

The only blame on the game's side, is being "good" at psychology. I.e. they got people (the kid) hooked. So, it isn't really the content of the game that matters here - it's the fact that the kid is addicted to the game. I mean kids all over the world are addicted to Minecraft - a pretty mind-numbingly boring game.

Video Game Addiction isn't formally considered a disorder, but looking at historic cases - and even current ones, it's pretty real. The symptoms can be exactly the same as with any drug addiction, meaning that withdrawal symptoms can be exactly the same as drug withdrawal symptoms. And we all know someone that goes through withdrawal isn't thinking clearly.

So. Should the gaming companies be held responsible for creating addictive games? No. Beer companies don't take responsibility for creating alcoholics and glue manufacturers don't take responsibility for people that sniff glue.

Or should they? All products have something in them that makes them "addictive" - that's why people buy it. And companies typically exploit people's addiction traits to get them to buy their products... So, should companies also be responsible for a nation's mental health?

I know I love a good game. I've also played very violent games since I could work a keyboard (including Doom, Leisure Suit Larry, Castle Wolfenstein, etc.). I've single-handedly saved the world from damnation more times than I can count... Yet, I have never killed or even physically harmed another person in real life.

So, to conclude. Obviously this kid have a psychological problem. No game, be it Frogger, Tetris or Grand Theft Auto is to blame and no research has ever proved otherwise.

Originally posted by amraks
I would not blame the video game here. Lets blame the parents for buying him the R rated game.

His dad should of had a serious talks on his thought of killing his mum also and investigated that thought.

Blame the parents? For buying a game????
Let's blame mental illness here...either newly developing or undiagnosed.
He is at an age where mental illness makes an appearance...let's investigate before we start blaming these poor parents.

He most likely would have had some kind of episode...with or without the game.

Really? You're going to blame the parents?

Originally posted by Nevertheless

Originally posted by amraks
Your answer was sick and was advertising rape as a joke.

You have a strange sense of humor if you found it to be a joke.
Also, blaming the mother for being [almost] raped and killed is normal?

your answer was disgusting and left a bad taste in my mouth.


I was not blaming the mother for being almost raped and killed. I was blaming her parenting skills. You obviously are trying to twist my words aren't you.


Yes there was obviously bad parenting going on, I blamed both its a joint effort raising kids.

Originally posted by AFewGoodWomen

Originally posted by amraks
I would not blame the video game here. Lets blame the parents for buying him the R rated game.

His dad should of had a serious talks on his thought of killing his mum also and investigated that thought.

Blame the parents? For buying a game????
Let's blame mental illness here...either newly developing or undiagnosed.
He is at an age where mental illness makes an appearance...let's investigate before we start blaming these poor parents.

He most likely would have had some kind of episode...with or without the game.

Really? You're going to blame the parents?

Mental Illness or not.... Everyone still has the ability to make CHOICES.

reply to post by Slugworth


I agree with all you've said. Really, I do. It's good to discuss this in an open minded way, different views, opinions, diverse discussion, we all have a view. To me, this is a very disturbing incident, can we blame the video game? Maybe, maybe not. But, these are young brains, garbage in, garbage out. It's best to leave off as much as you, as a parent, can prevent, right?

We must watch our children closer and be aware of not only what they are playing, doing, involved in, but also, their mental health as well.

Originally posted by resoe26

Originally posted by AFewGoodWomen

Originally posted by amraks
I would not blame the video game here. Lets blame the parents for buying him the R rated game.

His dad should of had a serious talks on his thought of killing his mum also and investigated that thought.

Blame the parents? For buying a game????
Let's blame mental illness here...either newly developing or undiagnosed.
He is at an age where mental illness makes an appearance...let's investigate before we start blaming these poor parents.

He most likely would have had some kind of episode...with or without the game.

Really? You're going to blame the parents?

Mental Illness or not.... Everyone still has the ability to make CHOICES.

With that being said then, the blame does not lie with the parents.
Thank you for making my point for me.
Isn't psychology fun?

reply to post by AFewGoodWomen


Naaaaa... there is still some blame that can be made on the parents.
This kid was 'allowed' to tell his dad that he wanted to kill his mom??
WTF. Imagine your child said that about your spouse....

The parents let his little pansy "rage" actions go unpunished probably multiple times. If they had laid a strict hand on this kid, probably things would be alot different. He sounds like a spoiled brat that needed a couple of belt spankings.

but now... he needs some fists and a foot shoved so far up his arse that whoever pulled it out would be considered King Arthur.

reply to post by AFewGoodWomen

With that being said then, the blame does not lie with the parents.
Thank you for making my point for me.
Isn't psychology fun?

I don't recall ever hearing a psychologist downplay the importance of a parents influence on the mental state of a child's behavior. The situation is probably too complex to simply blame on his parents, but I wouldn't assume they are without blame either. If I had to guess they made some big mistakes at some point. Even if they didn't contribute to the problem they probably didn't help much either, and a lack of influence in the kids life is perhaps almost as bad as being a negative influence. If I was this messed up I think my parents would have noticed something was wrong.

If I ever threatened to kill my mom I think she would been the one everyone was talking about the next day, not me.