Senator Mike Gravel "We Have a Space Military Force, it is in Existence"

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posted on May, 6 2013 @ 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by jonnywhite
Lets assume that the space command has kept secrets and has created hybrid low-earth-orbit/earth craft that fit the descriptions of many of the flying triangle sightings. The questions is WHY?

Why would they spend the billions of dollars to research and develop these triangles? Why not just develop better ICBM's or stealth-satellites or whatnot? No other nation has admitted to having a fleet of hybrid earth/space vehicles with crews, so there's no reason to be so dominating. And why risk breaking the trust of the public? For example, what if these triangles use something illegal?

Like what if they have nuclear engines or something or use plutonium?

There was an article in my paper recently titled "We need to properly examine the shame of deference." What it was about was hdow the US government can stop investigations by destroying evidence and suppressing evidence and relying on its authority to halt further inquiry.

Without oversight that's in the open we cannot ensure that the public is being served. National security is both necessary and dangerous. There needs to be state secrets, but when is it too much?
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What is known can be defended against, what is unknown can not.

So you keep a secret military, as always holding the high ground.... space

sell your "best" technology to other nations (30 year old junk rolled out as new)

These nations then fund your real military keeping you forever decades ahead of the world




posted on May, 6 2013 @ 12:48 PM
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The triangular ones are the smaller ones and more like tactical craft (a sort of escort fighter).

Then there are those huge craft - let´s call motherships to these ones - because they are huge!
They are comparable in lenght to an aircraft carrier - at least the size of an british Invincible Class aircraft carrier.
Yes, i´m talking about 200 meters or a bit more.

Taking this into account, the Reagan speech about having craft able to carry 300 or more people into space, makes sense.



posted on May, 6 2013 @ 04:41 PM
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Who is in charge of it then? Since most of the space missions in the U.S are done by the private sector now...



posted on May, 6 2013 @ 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by SloAnPainful
Who is in charge of it then? Since most of the space missions in the U.S are done by the private sector now...



Have you been reading the posts on this thread?
Rather than explain some of the points already mention in this thread, I feel lit necessary to ask you this question because if you back up to the beginning you may get a glimmer of what is going on.



posted on May, 6 2013 @ 05:12 PM
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I wasn't actually asking for someone to explain it and I also wasn't aware this info was there. So thank you.

-SAP-



posted on May, 7 2013 @ 03:29 AM
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Don't people read a thread before putting their 2 cent in anymore

Why don’t you just put up your own 1290x1080 allsky camera with fisheye lens and see for yourself
You will be very surprise at what appear and disappears
Best part you get to see all the meteor, fireball and satellite like the ISS and radium flare.
I would love to know what are those double light going south to north very fast.


youtu.be...

here from japan
sonotaco.jp...
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posted on May, 7 2013 @ 05:43 AM
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Behold - Lance Lord, Space Command.

I used to crack up every time I ran into this guy, the name just kills me. He's a nice guy, too, but the name is awesome.

eta: what's worse, his General's Beyotch at the time was named something like Major Havoc.
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posted on May, 7 2013 @ 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by SloAnPainful
reply to post by Aliensun
 

I wasn't actually asking for someone to explain it and I also wasn't aware this info was there. So thank you.
-SAP-


Wow. Just wow. Your avatar's name Slow and Painful truly describes yourself.

Any who, moving right along...

2.3 trillion dollars missing from the Pentagon budget!

The $2.3 trillion dollars unaccounted for in the US DOD budget clearly spells out that the possibility of a true Space Force does exist and they have wonderful toys. This missing money only accounts for the turn of the century budget. How much more money was invested into this secret division since the 50s when the powers-that-be decided to create NASA as a smoke screen while the real (military) space program took off including the formation of a moon base.

Man, I wish I could be part of that.


Originally posted by Bedlam
Behold - Lance Lord, Space Command.
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I used to crack up every time I ran into this guy, the name just kills me. He's a nice guy, too, but the name is awesome.


Holy crap! I was about to ask you if you were being ficitious about Lance Lord (which is an awesome name). Then I Googled "Lance Lord" and I was amazed he IS in Space Command and has his own Wiki page... WTF?!

USAF Biography : Lance Lord
Wiki : Lance Lord

Makes you wonder what LL Cool Lord (sorry I'm lame) has been doing in space command for the past 11 years. I bet by now he has taken the Captain Picard route and became ambassador to an alien world.


Seriously, how do you know Lance Lord is a nice guy? Do tell what Lance Lord may have told you officially and unofficially. (I know, I wish I can peak behind the curtain. Or be part of those-that-be. I'm tired of being in this society where fake celebrities are more important than progress in science and technology.)
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posted on May, 7 2013 @ 05:04 PM
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You see Space Commandoes in Huntsville, General Lord was in town constantly towards the end of our stay there. We were doing a lot of design work out on the Arsenal for one of Lord's pet project groups, the Near Space Access Program, which uses high altitude balloons and aerostats.

Heck, the number two guy in AFSPC is General Hyten (another great name) from Huntsville.

AFSPC does a lot of work with Marshall and the Army's Space and Missile Defense Command.



posted on May, 7 2013 @ 05:28 PM
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The thing is, though, most of this stuff isn't secret at all. I agree with those suggesting people reading Zorgon's thread. Brilliant bit of research there.
Anywho yeah, pretty much out in the open. Just not well known. Hard to imagine what the Naval Space Command's black budget projects must be.
Incredible.



posted on May, 8 2013 @ 09:17 PM
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they are so much more advanced then we think



posted on May, 9 2013 @ 05:00 PM
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It would be interesting to know how many other countries had space commands. Seems to me the Russian announcement recently stating a new $50b space programme has something to do with military activities.



posted on May, 9 2013 @ 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by guppy
The $2.3 trillion dollars unaccounted for in the US DOD budget


Except it was never missing....
www.911myths.com...
www.defense.gov...



posted on May, 10 2013 @ 07:36 AM
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A reply to a post above.

Israel air force designation changed a few years ago to Israel Air & Space Force (something like that).
Before it was known as IDF/AF (Israel Defense Forces/Air Force).



posted on May, 11 2013 @ 12:53 AM
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There has to be a collective organization called the US Space Force. I encounter an announcement from such an entity when I get into extreme meditation and go way up in consciousness. As an entity, with agents, and representatives, part of its role is by acting as a kind of dominion. Is it real or an elaborate manifestation of consciousness? Well then what is it when the US has air, land, and sea and other forces but it is all the same defense system. If there is a space threat then there would be a space defense.

Another anecdote rooted solely in consciousness is an experience I had a couple nights ago. I turned off the power to my house to experience an absence of electromagnetic influence, for peace because of spiritual turbulence lately. Well, in the ether I heard a voice that said "Code Purple" for what I had done and then this person called "Space One" with some other codes and I perceived some presence like a satellite or craft with a different person speaking. Is this real, or a manifestation of subconscious? Is it a holographic universe projection or is there really a separate person there?

So to me there has to be a space force, and it is going to be out of the reach and jurisdiction of the people on earth. And yes aliens may be involved, or even controlling forces of this entanglement called earth. When a missile gets zapped out of the sky by a craft, well how do we know of a military that there wasn't someone in charge who believed they were accurate in a missile launch but the bigger picture was not accounted for? Maybe US Space Force is counter to the all-one mindset and is established to keep one locked into the ways of the world. Archons.

Now it is not who, but from when are they?



posted on May, 11 2013 @ 02:13 AM
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Dude, Phill Sneider has been talking about this for years at UFO conferences. However, that was before he was 'offed' by tptb.

If youre really interested in this, try looking for a pdf document titled 'the Mars Records'. Mendhak.com


 
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posted on May, 11 2013 @ 02:13 AM
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Dude, Phill Sneider has been talking about this for years at UFO conferences. However, that was before he was 'offed' by tptb.

If youre really interested in this, try looking for a pdf document titled 'the Mars Records'. Mendhak.com


 
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posted on May, 11 2013 @ 04:21 PM
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I'm checking for it now. Cheers



posted on May, 11 2013 @ 05:52 PM
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I bet the military would get a lot more recruits if people knew they could sign up to be a Space Marine.


Just saying....



posted on May, 11 2013 @ 09:44 PM
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Thanks for the Zorgon link. I've been reading it for hours. My eyes hurt!!!





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