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The Fed Is Trying Like Crazy, But Nothing It's Doing Can Save The Economy

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posted on May, 6 2013 @ 10:39 AM
The Fed is not trying to save the economy, they're the ones who got us in this situation to begin with. If anything, they're trying like crazy to collapse the economy.
edit on 6-5-2013 by 3NL1GHT3N3D1 because: (no reason given)

posted on May, 6 2013 @ 11:11 AM
"The more they Print, The Less it's Worth"

Banksters are Gangsters
This Music Video was created in helping to unite the people in a time of great divide. We are all faced with the same control and manipulation of what we work so hard for, "Money."

posted on May, 6 2013 @ 11:16 AM
The Fed is trying? trying to do what?

The Fed's actions only become clear when you realize whose interests the fed has in mind when it makes its decisions.

The Fed is nothing more than a cartel of banksters and every decision the fed makes is to further their interests, not ours. It was the biggest mistake Obama made in his presidency when he took office and surrounded himself with banksters, the same banksters responsible for the economic crash were put in charge of finding the solutions. Its no wonder that their solution was to pump $1 trillion per year into the banks in an attempt to pump up asset prices and now the bankster are receiving $85 billion per month in welfare. For some banks like chase the welfare payments make up 75% of their recorded profit last year.

Why is the Fed destroying the dollar and the economy to pump up asset prices? in one word, ENRON. ENRON was responsible for lobbying for mark to market where a company could sign a contract and declare it to be 100% profit without ever realizing one dime. I believe that in the documentary ENRON, it was stated in an interview that mark to market was a license to print money. The rush of cash into the housing market and the creation of the housing bubble was caused by mark to market. Banksters were writing, buying and trading mortgages as fast as they could and mark to market enabled them to declare an instant profit which they then sunk into their reserves. The presumption was that the housing market would never deflate, but it did and when houses went under water, exposing the serious flaw in mark to market. The banksters realized the profit, a profit that did not exist, and they accepted that risk based on the false assumption that housing prices would never decline. It meant that the underlying asset values in these financial instruments decreased and that the banks suffered loses on profit that they never actually received and that the worthless financial paper would have to be written down by the banks. You see, if the banks recorded profit as it came in, no write downs would be necessary, but because of mark to market the banks would have or should have become insolvent if they were forced to accept reality of lower housing values and write down the value of the financial instruments, and in doing so they would have had to write down their reserves.

So what did the Fed do? well it told the banks that they did not have to write the paper down, it infused the banks with cash, it protected the banks and no prosecutions have been made, and the fed has bought some of this worthless paper to get it off the banks books which has effectively socialized the loses.

The Fed is now trying to spark inflation, they may claim that they aren't but that's a complete lie. The Fed is attempting to inflate the economy, to cause asset prices underlying financial instruments to rise, and thereby save the banks by inflating the assets and raising the value of the worthless paper to the level that supports the mark to market profit taken by the banksters. the DOW 15000 is a joke and proof that this plan is to pump the market and create another false economy or economic bubble. While the real economy is starting to feel the effects of depression.

If you think that's bad news, here it gets worse
To save the cartel of banks, the Fed is monetizing the debt, destroying the dollar, and wrecking the American economy. The real problem for the US is that this has open up cracks in the supremacy of the dollar as the world's reserve currency and now countries like the BRACS are rushing it to displace the American petro dollar.

If anyone ever asks why are we in the middle east, its not for the oil, its to support the petro dollar. The battle cry over there should be "save the petro dollar." Saudi families commit terrorist acts on American soil, cover it up, "save the petro dollar." Iraq threatens the Arab states, attack Iraq, "save the petro dollar." Iran threatens the Arab states, attack Iran, "save the petro dollar." The US has a very financially beneficial arrangement with the middle east, we give them military security, and in return we get to buy what ever we want by just printing money because the rest of the world is forced to buy Arab oil with American dollars. If the petro dollar fails, the US will be in a death spiral. This is why Bernanke is guilty of treason, in his attempt to save this cartel of banks from the consequences of their own stupidity and greed, the Fed has open the US up to the possibility that the petro dollar will fail. This is the greatest threat to US national security EVER. But everyone is lining their pockets, DOW is 15000, everyone has their pom poms out and cheering and when this next crash occurs, its going to be a currency crash and our enemies are waiting at the gate. Everyone will ask who that could have happened, well now you know why.

As Ayn Rand said "you can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of reality"

posted on May, 6 2013 @ 11:37 AM
The Feds need to put industry back into America (I remember when you could buy made in America yet this isn't easy to find anymore). I went to the reservation to buy some stuff made by natives a year ago as gifts. I was shocked to see that the tribes were no longer making these products but rather they say "made in china". How can you sell a peace pipe or head dress that is a replica of a Native American artifact and justify it being made in China? My son was given a US marine corp embalm at a fair. It said made in china too. I mean come on.

Then it would be nice to stop with the credit. Most people have limits on their credit cards. The Feds should be no different.

In the end Americans are fortunate. We are blessed with plenty of food, and people don't even have to work to insure they have their basic needs met. I have a heck of a time keeping people employed and I'm a super nice employer. It's because people don't really need to work in many cases. When I say "need" I mean "if I don't work we don't eat". Americans are largely entitled and this has impacted the work force without a doubt. Everyone wants to make top dollar from the first day of their first job and I can see why with inflation but its a variable that I can't dismiss when I think of the economy.

If the government is supposed to be managing this country they need to come up with solutions that those of us on ATS could likely brainstorm for ourselves. It does make one wonder what the problem is; if incapable of managing or they just don't care.

posted on May, 6 2013 @ 12:52 PM
They are trying like crazy to just preserve themselves and their political puppets and they are winning. Being they are tied to the war mongers who like to take loans on their printed money to make war and stay in power, they get a stimulus anytime the news says something about terror .

posted on May, 6 2013 @ 03:40 PM
reply to post by gladtobehere

How do you explain this to the sheep? Everything Dr. Paul has discussed is truth. It's looked at "Crazy" yet if you have half a mind everything makes sense.

I truly believe that the Economy could be fixed with good morale practices.

First off allow states to Govern them self. That's a start.

Allow individuals to cultivate/consume/barter what they deem necessary.

Crime would be decreased substantially and it opens up trade not only in neighboring but abroad.

Since we rob other countries for resources anyways...

Maybe I talk too conservative but how much money do you think can be made from Hemp alone?

Like Dr. Paul said you can't even get high off hemp.

Yet you can create Concrete for houses, Clothing, Automobiles that are lighter and stronger than steel, Food, etc.

Stuff is ass-backwards nowadays.

posted on May, 6 2013 @ 03:44 PM
reply to post by dreamingawake

Are you implying that they are trying hard to save the economy ?

They caused it. Next to that , they can turn it around whenever they choose to do so.

posted on May, 6 2013 @ 03:46 PM
It's not difficult to see where it's all gone wrong is it?

If you have a manufacturing based economy then the world is your oyster, you will have customers all around the world.

If you have a service based economy, whether it's financial services, or serving pizza at a local restaurant, then 99.9% of your business comes from within your own borders, predominantly from the local area.

There is no inflow of wealth from other nations, all that's happening is that the same money is recirculating in the system, but it's diminishing as the successful business owners realise their profits.

When you then add mass immigration into the equation, where migrant workers are taken advantage of by being used in terms of working for very low wages, they not only displace the indigenous population from employment, but even less money then finds it's way into the local economy and businesses go to the wall, increasing the speed and depth of the cycle.

I'm in the UK and I had a cracking discussion with a moron of a woman (and believe me, she was a thick as 2 short planks) about 3 years ago.

She worked for a company that had shut all of it's manufacturing and shipped it abroad. She thought this was a great thing because, as she put it "over here we don't want to do those mucky dirty manual jobs" (i.e we're too good for that kind of work), but the workers in 3rd world countries were good at that kind of thing.

Conversely she said, they need us as managers because that's what we're good at and they aren't (i.e. she claimed they are too stupid to manage themselves).

I tried pointing out to her that if she truly thought that she could manage a factory 10,000 miles away that she'd never even visited, and really believed that they were all thick, that she was the true idiot and would soon find herself out of work.

But it didn't compute sadly.

And that's why we're in the mess we're in.

posted on May, 6 2013 @ 05:45 PM
reply to post by dreamingawake

Every dollar created in America instantly becomes a dollar more of debt. The system WILL NEVER recover.

posted on May, 7 2013 @ 12:22 AM
reply to post by dreamingawake

While those charts may be perfectly accurate, the numbers are nowhere near as dramatic as the charts try to portray. How about we look at the same charts with a scaling from 0 and see how (relatively) flat and smooth those charts are.

posted on May, 7 2013 @ 12:33 AM
reply to post by 0ptw0

Not that the Chinese own a majority of our debt (the majority bondholders are Americans) but it doesn't really matter what the Chinese want. If they 'come in" in any obvious way, they will face opposition that will make Iraq or Afghanistan look like a tea-party, and they know it.

posted on May, 7 2013 @ 01:45 AM
I think what's going on should be labeled a "regressive recovery". There are jobs being made, but what they pay out actually works as an economic loss.

If they want to show the real value of employment in a labor market, then they need to show number of jobs and unfilled available jobs segmented by tax bracket. McJobs that require section-8 and food stamp assistance for a person to stay afloat do diddly jack to help a local economy. (Perhaps hurting it more as not enough tax money is collected in the long run. That's a loss isn't it?) The only value to these jobs is a modest buffer in the crime rate as it keeps people from being completely idle and coming up with more extreme methods of getting by.

Whats needed is good paying jobs, but the majority of those have been outsourced or eliminated. So an economy ends up going stagnant as any remaining wealth lacks fluidity. (Like others have said, remaining upper class hoards money or doesn't spend anywhere near enough to help the local economy.)

posted on May, 7 2013 @ 07:17 PM
The Protocols of Zion. They will tell you what and why these things are happening . These are the truth that the Powers that be do not want you knowing . They will do anything to hide the facts of how powerless you are to stop them . There is a reason why they want your guns .

posted on May, 7 2013 @ 07:58 PM
reply to post by ShadellacZumbrum

Though the economy is Grim and Bleak at best, there is one good thing that may come out of it. The Feds may hold the rate of the 1 Year Treasury Note again this year which means that anyone with a Variable Rate Mortgage will not see their rate adjust this year.

We are still at a historically high residential mortgage delinquency rate..

Those people that have not made mortgage payments in several years are unlikely to be approved for a new mortgages at the lower price levels. One reason banks are reluctant to foreclose is that it removes an inflated value asset from their books. When the real estate bubble broke in 2006 the banks and realtors artificially held housing prices up by keeping the shadow inventory off the market and reselling some properties multiple times. Then there was the robosigning scandal and court delays.

The real estate slump in 1979 lasted about 7 years as did the 1990 price bust in some states. It could be another couple years before the fed see's the need to raise interest rates.

posted on May, 8 2013 @ 12:51 AM
reply to post by Cauliflower

I don't think that our dollar will not be worth a darn soon . You can forget the Fed . I think they are about out of here . What else can they steal ,they have it all . The next thing will be a Global money system to rescue us from a stalled economy . Now we must get everything from abroad and if they don't honor our money we are screwed now . It was not that way in 1929 .

posted on May, 8 2013 @ 11:13 AM
I love these days!! Really!! Finally all the corruption will come to an end - might be a big bang but at least it's rolling

Even their own people have enough and more and more wistleblowers come out, like Karen Hudes chief consultant from the world bank.

...Senior Counsel for the World Bank legal department reports corruption to US Congress, the World Bank's other member countries and the public....

posted on May, 8 2013 @ 11:24 AM
This is a typical ATS "where you'd get that news from?" thread.

There wasn't a peep from the rightwing "news" machines
when Bush drove us to record unemployment and a stock market
at 6000. But now with unemployment at 7% and the market an all time
high of 15,000...We're doomed!"

I can't quite put my finger on it, but there is something about this
president conservatives don't like.
Gee I wonder .

posted on May, 8 2013 @ 11:45 AM
reply to post by sealing

This is not about Democrats or Republicans . Both parties are working for the Globalist . They are both guilty of treason concerning selling our country down the NWO tube . But they do have some what of an incentive . JFK fought the Globalist Banksters and did not fair well . The only thing is that the Republicans seemed to have handled the money part of the plan and the Democrats seem to be handling the attack on our Constitution and Bill of Rights . CHANGE was likely to mean a change to the NWO version of Communism/Socialism and Agenda 21 the UN version of Sustainable Development .That change can be accomplished by causing a world monetary failure. The Banksters ? NWO will step up after some terrible suffering and population reduction to offer their new plan to get the economy rolling again . Of course there will be stipulations that you will not like . It will be Global Government and Agenda 21. Banksters or Gangsters , the same thing!

posted on May, 16 2013 @ 08:59 AM
As long as the fed keeps pumping 86B/month into the stock market buying its own bonds, the stock market will not accurately reflect our economy.

All its doing is making the rich richer, those who can afford to pull in a slice of that monthly 86 billion. Us working folk see absolutely ZERO benefit in the market being up, which is why you don't see Obama and this administration taking credit for the market's record highs.

All the smart billionaires like Soros and Buffet have been dumping their holdings while the markets are up, profiting in the billions before next crash when the fed stops injecting money into this anemic market.

posted on May, 16 2013 @ 09:24 AM
I do not know about the Fed for the lack of skilled workers for the construction industry is going to slow the recovery down. Everyone is screaming for them now.

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