The Government Is Planting Child Porn On Your Computer

as an old computer guy, here's my 2 cents
1...never store anything on your computer that you cannot replace, or don't want public
2...always remember that if you are online, someone can access your files, if they want it bad enough
3...people in other countries are always trying to get into your computer, regardless of any laws
4...get a hard copy of you computers operating system, and know how to do a complete reload
5...remember that viruses have to be discovered first, then dealt with, if you download a fix, it was because it was already on perhaps thousands of computers

over the years, I have done from 1 to 7 reloads of my entire operating system on each new computer hardware platform I have purchased. I have it down to less than 2 hours, with all peripherals loaded. once you get used to it, it's easy, a little time consuming, but sadly routine. I store nothing , I do not shop, and anything of value, I immediately print out or save to a flash drive, and then delete it.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by tetra50

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by Wrabbit2000

 

And that is why the law does not make sense. The people who create the child porn should be charged with a felony. The people who view it are perverts but how does that harm anyone?

Sex is a big deal only in conservative countries.

ummm, sorry to call you on this, but IMHO, this is NOT A SEXUAL ISSUE, WHATSOEVER. I'm liking sex as much as anyone....always have. There is a difference between sex, consenting, aware adults, and what is being described here. and sorry, but what this is should be a very big deal anywhere. Because ultimately it isn't sex....it's control, subjugation, exploitation, and none of those, in my book, have absolutely anything to do with healthy, natural sex.....

I wasn't condoning child molestation in the slightest, I was implying sexual misconduct/crimes in the general sense are overblown in conservative countries, much like narcotic useage. What one does with their private life should be their business alone if it does not harm others.

Agree with you totally and completely about that with the caveat "as long as it does not hurt others." For your own sake, I thought it important that your post I initially responded to needed some further clarity. I didn't really think you meant that activity, much less framing someone with it, was ok, but I did think your post was not quite clear about that...

Originally posted by Arbitrageur

Originally posted by Byrd
First, BIN is a tabloid and frankly makes up a lot of the news on the page.

Yes BIN is a terrible source, I completely agree.

That is what they say about all the alternative sites. "they are bad, they are terrible, oh my, don't go there".

Is it better to believe fox news, msnbc, cbs, abc, bbc, etc?

People should compare and judge for themselves. On the important issues alternative sites are way closer to thruth than lamestream ones are.

Honestly sometimes I can't believe how *mainstream* this so called "alternative site" site is.

Symantec is a decent antivirus once again. MS antivirus products are awful. But for home use, I'd recommend something like Kapersky, or Malwarebytes, etc. Spyware doctor is solid too. I don't even have an antivirus software loaded on my computer. I just use tools now and again to check to make sure I'm clean. Am I foolish? Naw.. once you protect your computer, you don't really need antivirus software. But I'm not recommending anyone not use antivirus.

You don't need to rebuild your computer. Unless you are using an ancient OS of course. But you should at -least- be using Windows 7 if using an MS OS. If still using XP, you definitely want to be on something else by March of next year. Once they no longer support an OS (April '13 for XP), they no longer publish security updates, and you can be hammered with security threats. If you are using something older than XP now, you are already in that boat.

If using Windows 7, click on Start, and in the dialog box, type Backup and hit enter. The option Create a System Image is what you want. That will create a duplicate of everything you have. If you lose it all, just restore this, and your computer will restore to exactly the state it was in when you created the image. I'd do this every couple of weeks, or as often as you don't want to lose data. It doesn't take a long time really - just back up to an external HDD.

System restore will remove almost all viruses, although some viruses turn it off. Turning it off also deletes the restore points. Have a secondary logon with admin perms and as soon as you suspect something weird is going on, do a system restore going back at least a couple days prior to when you first thought you had the virus. It'll be like you never had it. You will need to run updates again.. running system restore removes anything put on, including security updates.

Do I know what I am talking about? Possibly.. I've got 25 years in the IT field, and currently manage my companies security, among other things. I recently bought the Symantec suite for our computers and servers, because they now have a VMware (Vshield) component.. and it catches a heck of a lot of viruses. Businesses have a lot more protection than homes typically. Hardware firewalls, I have the Symantec software firewall enabled, we have 2 layers of spam filters, etc. At home, you should have some sort of router - a Linksys or something. NAT isn't astounding, but is a first layer of defense. Use tdskilller.exe from Kapersky if you suspect you have a trojan.. the thing is great. That, and Malewarebytes, and either proper trusted site settings in IE or tools like adblocker plus for Firefox, and you are actually pretty safe. p.s. I don't block ads from this site.

Originally posted by salainen

Originally posted by Byrd
Win32 is the API for the old versions of Windows...

Win32 is actually the 32bit API... It comes with 32bit OSs, so Windows 95 to Windows 8.

Win32 was not included in Windows 3.1, which was a 16bit OS. You could, however, get Win32s for the OS, to get some 32bit operation, but it was still not Win32.

Pretty sure Win32 is also included in all 64bit Operating Systems, to allow 32bit programs to work. Even if it isn't, 32bit systems are not obsolete, many people still run Windows XP, and very few have a 64bit XP...

It was a point that only us geeks could appreciate... I started to include it along with the lack of virus reports and pedigree and stuff about botnets, but then thought the resulting explanation would be too confusing. I stuck with the simple... shoulda known someone would catch me out.

reply to post by Djdoubt03


True or not the government has to find a way to silence people. A country with a constitution has strong as ours is going to be no easy thing to get rid of so the best way is to install fear to the point of insanity.

We have not even seen the tip of what a corrupt government can do who is hell bent on bringing the U.S. into the folds of socialism/communism. They are only a quarter of the pop of the U.S., they have to cheat or loose and there not about to loose at this point after 75 years of getting here.

Virtual Box is a free and easy alternative, but if you do not know what you are doing it will leave an 'active' and open connection. (Oracle). I tend not to like VMware. Have someone help you, create a few 'images' and you just replace every so often. This is similar to reinstalling your OS every 3-6 months.

I also do not have any anti virus on my pc's or home servers as they are bloated and slow down processing with on access scanning. I use a Cisco router with a firewall I picked up online. A hardware vs software firewall is a no brainer and if you have both you are pretty well protected.

So if you are concerned, make sure to firewall yourself from a router and not just pc. It will not stop those who really want to get in but it should stop people from sniffing around. As I tell clients, you can do whatever you want, spend whatever you want, but if a 14 year old really wants to he can really screw you up.

Most times your pc will be used as a 'middle man' and you will not know if you have some malware or a virus.

Your best bet is to be aware and find software recommendations from someone in the industry and not what is 'free' on CNET or such.

Quick story about post 9/11 monitoring. I work as a consultant for companies who use high end HRIS software. My clients can range from 50 to 20000 employees and I have contracts with many banks and DOD contractors as well as normal industries. Most times if I am onsite I have to leave all of the own hardware and use theirs. No phones. No laptops. They give me access to their servers from what they consider a secure workstation. I tell my kids Dad is going dark today and you will not be able to get a hold of me.

One of them I worked with was a 'well known military contractor who has 'changed' it's name over the years. (you can figure it out). I worked with them (06-07)to help their contracted employees overseas 'access' information from this HRIS system via an online portal. It was a cool job. I was told however to make sure that NO personal information was transferred or stored anywhere as many of these people were targets and had past threats made against them and their families and I have all their personal info from SSN to addresses to what they did to who their wife and kids were...were they were stationed... everything. You have to pay people and they pay taxes. This is an easy way for the government at anytime to 'audit' a company and they can get everything folks.

During one of the emails that was sent, the name of the CEO was included in the email body, not the address of the email. the body, as a name to verify and test in the software as the CEO/CIO will always wants to be the able to see it if not use the software they purchased and employees use. A few weeks after that email was sent to 'me', The company I worked for at the time was contacted by DHS and wanted to know why we had this information and we had to show why. PITA but it showed me then one thing...everything is monitored.

Be careful out there...

Originally posted by fleabit

I have a helpful hint for watchers of, um, non-hollywood motion picture personal dramas.

Virtual machines.

Use VirtualBox or VMware and make a VM. Install a minimal operating system in there (to be safest, use Linux). Do all your late-night 'work' there. If you get a virus, erase the VM and overwrite the diskspace. Almost no viruses escape a VM.

VM software is quite expensive. And it still gets viruses. You can fairly well protect yourself without such measures. And if using for example, Windows 7, you can just create a system image. As long as you do that regularly, even if your computer gets completely screwed up, just run the restore and your computer will be back to the way it was, software, data and the rest.

The point is to avoid that. It is not that realistic, and if you have a serious infestation, that will not fix everything. You may not be able to run System Restore properly, or the virus can worm its way into the system files.

VirtualBox and VMWare player are free. The first is open source.

For exactly $0.0 you can download and install VirtualBox and a Linux guest.

Windows updates, Java updates, IE trusted settings, Adobe settings, etc.. can all be done to make a computer fairly virusproof. You can still get something, but as long as you recognize your computer is not acting normal, a quick log onto your admin account, a system restore, and presto.. good as new.

That's naive. System Restore will in not permanently fix a government-level (original subject of thread) or even good criminal-level virus. Obviously it will help in other cases, but I think a VM is safer.

With a VM image you can "nuke it from orbit".

Originally posted by salainen
reply to post by flossy666

 

Yeah, I was thinking someone must have replied to him already. I think he forgot to read the OP. That virus is well known (pretty sure for years), and was certainly not created by the FBI, nor does it download illegal files to your computer as you said. So completely unrelated.

Although I don't like you reccomending people use "Superantispyware (free version)". I mean sure, might be a good program, but in my opinion people should be educated about rogue anti-virus products. Better to reccomend some reputable major company, be it Microsoft itself, or Symantec, etc.

Been using Superantispyware (free version) for years and years and years. It's my fav and very much recommended - at least by me!

Originally posted by mysterioustranger
reply to post by ShadellacZumbrum

 

This FBI-CYBERCRIMES virus I got was: (not the complete link) a video player (like for saving YouTube etc) called in part-VCLMediaplayerTrojan-Worm ....so if you see this app anywhere on your stuff....delete it asap.

It completely wiped out everything...I mean EVERYTHING of over 47,000 files and 12 years of files, photos, vids, books Ive written, copyrights I own etc.

It hit me so bad that it wiped out everythng down to a white screen and just the FBI-CYBER CRIMES-send us $300 or we'll have you arrested and then we'll turn your comptr back on (it wont, I didnt, and they werent going to). Scared the crap out fo me at 1st.

Since I work at one of the big-three automakers and volunteer for Police an Fire....I do know a few people and tricks. We tried using the SATA-USB plug to view the hard drive and my files from another OS-computer....but it was completely devasted by this thing. It didnt work at all.

Luckily for me, I had saved 90% of everything off of the computer, so I lost a little...but its all back now.

PS THIS THING IS STILL IN THERE EVEN WITH ALL NEW OS. The day I got it back, the MINUTE I turned it on....I had 9 intrusion attempts.

These guys got your IP address and even when you clean and back up and are again running-clean...they STILL got you and are trying.

Good luck all.....MS

Just in case you didn't read my post, just use System Restore (if you can) to take that off your computer. Keep pressing F8 (at least i **think** it's F8) during startup to get to System Restore before your computer boots up. I then used Superantispyware (free version) to get rid of it completely. It worked and worked well. You can also youtube how to get rid of it and it will tell you to use system restore. It works!!! Take care.

Originally posted by ShadellacZumbrum
reply to post by Djdoubt03

 

This is Just Now being reported?

I have been removing the FBI Virus from Company Computers and Personal computers for about 5-6 months now.

It is a nasty little thing. It displays the FBI seal and says that you have been looking at child porn. It says that if you goto a western union terminal and wire the $200-$250 then input the transaction code they will release your computer.

Funny enough there was one individual who paid the $250, input the transaction code, and then NOTHING. He still had the Virus. .. LOL.

I am sorry I can't help but to laugh.

This virus is mainly being implanted through Porn Websites.

It is nasty enough that it turns off your Anti-Virus Software and disables the key functions. Unfortunately Crtl-Alt-Del does Not work, and Safe Mode Does Not work

You actually have to pull the hard drive and jack it into another system to remove the pointers.

I have made allot of money from this one. I can honestly say that for this reason, I Love Porn.

P.S .. It is Not actually Downloading porn of any kind onto your computer.

edit on 4-5-2013 by ShadellacZumbrum because: (no reason given)

You can hold F8 on reboot and choose to recover from a previous store point and then run Malwarebytes or some other programs to remove it.

System Restore doesn't necessarily remove any malware. Malware can sometimes implant itself into your restore points. Sometimes they can also halt the System Restore process, so you can never restore it. Some pieces of malware also can survive formats by infecting the BIOS, and then copying themselves onto the hard drive every time they don't detect it being on the hard drive. But I'm not convinced the government is doing anything to our computers. I'm not saying the government is innocent, but what I am saying is the government is not putting viruses on our computer - let alone ones that actually put child porn on our computers. If you need to protect certain files from access, the best thing to do is use TrueCrypt and create a partition and encrypt it with a really high bit encryption with a really good password. Or store those files offline on a flash drive/external hard drive/DVD.

Originally posted by mbkennel
System Restore will in not permanently fix a government-level (original subject of thread) or even good criminal-level virus. Obviously it will help in other cases, but I think a VM is safer.

I've only ever wanted to use system restore one time in the last decade and the one time I needed it, it didn't work. So to me it's pretty useless. I even turned it off since that happened. What's the point in relying on something you can't rely on?

Virtual machines are much better and so far completely reliable, as you suggest.

Another thing you can do even without a virtual machine is use the clone feature of some backup software to make a clone of your hard drive. That's also much more reliable than system restore. If you have a swappable slot for your hard drive, it's pretty easy to do this once a week and just alternate between two drives, but some newer Windows operating systems don't like to support those swappable hard drive slots for the main OS drive.

reply to post by NewsWorthy




I think of it more of being the internet version of Weekly World News.

reply to post by flossy666

I guess my problem was, when it hit...I couldnt even get that far....nothing. No restore, no start-in-safe mode...no F8 anything. It completely wiped my drive, OS. Hit START and it went white to their page...and disabled my keyboard and key strokes.

Thankfully, after the PD IT guy for the city got it all back...Im just having some access-intrusion attempts being caught and removed....and we're working on that to end this crap.

Thanks for the great advice.

reply to post by Xeven


It is allot easier to just jack into the hard drive and remove the files manually compared to running a system restore. Besides most people do not even know that Restore exists until the day comes that they find out that they never had it turned on.

As for Malware Bytes... This is Not the best program. It fails to find and recognize allot of different types of Malware. It is Also Not Very Effective if the system is infected before you install it. As with Any Anti-Virus Program, these are designed as a Preventative Measure Not a Cure.

Have you ever heard the phrase "An Ounce of Prevention is Worth a Pound of Cure"? They were talking about Anti-Virus programs when that was conceived.

Besides why is there a need to try to remove a virus when you have run a system restore. It is like it isn't even there. So you will be trying to find something that does not exist.

On a side note regarding Anti-Virus Programs. . .. . AVG Free is probably the best thing since Sliced Bread. It does Almost Everything a Purchased or Subscription Based program does for FREE.

If you are in Serious Dire Straights and are in Need of Immediate Help, I would Suggest COMBOFIX.exe. It is also a Free program that can be downloaded from Bleeping Computers.

reply to post by Nevertheless


100% agree with you, man.

reply to post by optimus primal


I think they can and have these fascist kind of legislations that have brought in police state tactics in recent years, but its not in the open. They would still have to deal with a large population outraged and still possessing guns no matter what laws they try to enact against the populations.

So to me, this isn't about making the odd person disappear, its about setting up a scenario to gain public support, ie. a slander campaign against whomever they want to make disappear.

Everyone talks about NWO in the open. First of all that scenario would topple many corporations as would an economic collapse. I don't believe businesses are pro NWO.

In fact, IMO there are always camps, metaphorical dark hats and white hats and grey (neutral) hats amongst those who have too much and should be sharing equally with everyone, especially power.

I don't believe the metaphorical dark hats will win their goals at all. Not as they wish.

But that does not mean while they are trying to push the system to more tyranny that they are not trying to mount campaigns to hide their way of trying to target people from the general population. And the porn does that, it provides a way to get rid of support and sympathy from the general population.

"Eeek! What are you doing with that disgusting porn on your computer?!?!"

"Erm, the government must have put it there."