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posted on May, 4 2013 @ 04:53 PM
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What Can You Do? Computer users, especially those who use P2P file sharing programs and messaging, are encouraged to use ESET of McAfee virus scan/destroy software as both recognize the virus.


This makes me want to live in a cave, what to do, use these softs that couldnt even detect if the pc is off, let alone a virus. Just go back to sleep, Back to Sleep Back to Sleep, asleep yet? good. Sleep Sleep Sleep.

And speak up and you'll have cops atcha door. Sleep




posted on May, 4 2013 @ 04:57 PM
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The real problem here, is that technology is so pervasive,but so many are too stupid to use it properly. Configuring your antivirus, firewall etc security properly can stop almost any virus/trojan/et al. As well as some simple rules for web navigation like not clicking on strange links, or on advertisements, disabling _javascript for ads etc.
Hell, many free antivirus programs are set it and forget it.

Many people think it's so hard to understand it all, when it really isn't, that they don't even bother. They then complain when their hard drive is turned into a paperweight because they actually thought a nigerian prince wanted to give them millions of dollars, or they play some stupid web games and click on all this random crap and their hard drives become loaded with dozens of virii.

If anyone really wanted to curtail this appalling trend, they should really spend more time supplying free information, or links to, how to properly secure your computer and browse the web.

So in summation, if people are really acquiring a virus of this nature, they've been doing things they shouldn't and not properly securing their pc, so it's really their own fault and I honestly can't find the energy to feel sorry for them.



posted on May, 4 2013 @ 05:08 PM
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I wouldn't put it past Homeland Security to do something like that. This way they can find evidence stored on your harddrive to use against them if you challenge them or they think you are a threat to something. Why stop there though, if this is true than they could pin almost anything on a person. If you don't make waves it means that you aren't in the water where the sharks live.



posted on May, 4 2013 @ 05:11 PM
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Originally posted by rickymouse
I wouldn't put it past Homeland Security to do something like that. This way they can find evidence stored on your harddrive to use against them if you challenge them or they think you are a threat to something. Why stop there though, if this is true than they could pin almost anything on a person. If you don't make waves it means that you aren't in the water where the sharks live.


I agree with you totally, rickeymouse, as I often do....but the problem here is the water is life, and sharks are an inherent part of it......



posted on May, 4 2013 @ 05:11 PM
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My thought is that spamming this sort of material pre-emptively would be absolutely superfluous. If the authorities wanted to get anyone it would be much more logical, safe, and secure to simply have an FBI tech place the images upon the drive during the forensic examination of the computer. All they would need for probable cause is a list of accessed IP's from ones ISP - and that can be easily modified to include suspicious connections.

While the Feds do use illegal files, including child pornography, in sting and honeypot operations, the idea of broad dissemination of these materials defies operational integrity and would never pass any risk/reward assessment.

Now if one angers the wrong civilians... this sort of thing could quite easily occur - but would be accomplished by methods much more precise than a propagating trojan.



posted on May, 4 2013 @ 05:29 PM
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You need to research an ad hominem argument my friend. The only people I'm attacking are the ones who collect child pornography, then try and rationalize or minimize its destructiveness. If you're feeling attacked, that's on you.

I disagree that the OP, or any other poster has given a logical reason as to WHY the big bad government would plant child porn on an innocent person's computer. At least not a sane reason devoid of craziness.

In response to the "reading comprehension" problem, thanks for the personal attack. I assure you I comprehend better than a majority on this board. Sorry to disappoint.



posted on May, 4 2013 @ 05:36 PM
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They have new more effective methods of doing this, including the creation if internet activity and illegal downloads.

You'd be shocked to know how many active FBI agents, former agents, and agents from other agencies have had this stuff found on their computers, especially in cases where corruption was going to be exposed, and in many cases charges were dropped when the accused were threatened with it.

It is perhaps one of the best "in house" tools the agencies have to control and contain their more covert and corrupt activities, and in some cases can be used for extortion from people in the private sector.

There is no good use for tactics like this, but who says they have any good intentions when they use it.



posted on May, 4 2013 @ 05:37 PM
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Originally posted by ShadellacZumbrum
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It is Not the Porn.

It is the Virus that can be a pain to remove.

BUT, .. . If you just remember . . Format C: /U .. . Viruses can be Defeated.

Formatting is actually the worse case scenario. If you know what you are looking for it is easy to remove.

There are Always Pointer files and registry entries that can be removed to make them go Away.




Well
is top secret or you gone tell us how
or do you want $200.00 also



posted on May, 4 2013 @ 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by BeliefInReality
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You need to research an ad hominem argument my friend. The only people I'm attacking are the ones who collect child pornography, then try and rationalize or minimize its destructiveness. If you're feeling attacked, that's on you.

I disagree that the OP, or any other poster has given a logical reason as to WHY the big bad government would plant child porn on an innocent person's computer. At least not a sane reason devoid of craziness.

In response to the "reading comprehension" problem, thanks for the personal attack. I assure you I comprehend better than a majority on this board. Sorry to disappoint.
My main problem with you, is that by your response, you have effectively labelled anyone here who disagrees with you as a child pornography collecting paedophile. Whatever label you wish to apply here, your argument is hardly logical and certainly is offensive to a great many people who neither logically have incurred your judgement, nor should suffer from it.

You aren't disappointing me, except to say that I fear for your own integrity, with such judgement in place, for I still stand by what I said and know to be true and have seen, in my lifetime, happen to good people who are anything but what you described in your initial response to this thread. Judgement is easy, easy as fri#$ing hell.

You may have a very good point about the correct label for your lack of logic, but I still find it a lack in logic. Sorry to disappoint , as well. But you have effectively, with your respopnse, put everyone and anyone who disagrees with you in a certain category, and are thereby showing, and exempligying exactly the kind of power this holds over the lives of the innocent, serving as slaves for the guilty....and if you are not aware enough to know that's where you live and that's what is going on as a result, well, then, good luck to you and that blanket judgement you got goin' on , dude. Sorry to disappoint, but I find that those who incur and invoke blanket judgements such as yours are either on THAT side, or have very little real life experience, aside from the safety of your 9 to 5, and crusing a computer to see how those freaks out there make it every day.....

Rememer what I said: in this place, whatever you acquiesce to for others will sooner or later be visited upon you....
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posted on May, 4 2013 @ 05:55 PM
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Oh, and btw, you are right about one thing: it is called a nonsequitor.....in which your logic does not follow from assertion to conclusion.



posted on May, 4 2013 @ 06:02 PM
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The reason for it being Child Porn is/would be a very simple one ...although motive eludes me enitrely. Reason and motive are different things though.

The reason is that Child Porn in the United States sits by itself and almost unique for a class all it's own. Mere possession of it is a high class felony crime. Whether you knew about it, or not. Whether you meant to have it, or not. Whether you went looking for it, or not. None of that matters one whit, if you're found to be in possession of it. This is precisely why the FBI and others will tell a citizen DO NOT go trying to play citizen detective to find and ferret out Child porn distributors online. The mere act of finding them is a federal crime, by definition of what you must necessarily end up seeing (and having saved somewhere on your system, in almost all cases) in the process.

Motive on the other hand? Now I couldn't guess a logical one for that. This is like suggesting the Government would deliberately insert illegal substances into commonly purchased items like backyard filler sand or the like. Possession with said substance mixed in it would still be a high crime, but what is gained? Nothing much ...and woe be on the agency or agents who DID such a thing when it came to the public light (and eventually..it would. No one keeps their mouth shut about much of anything forever these days).

IMO? Wikipedia is a reference...not a Source. BIN is...entertainment, which, occasionally can function as a reference and never, ever in a wild tangent, be a reliable source by itself. Just my personal opinion there.

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posted on May, 4 2013 @ 06:28 PM
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This is not a worse case scenario. They can probably plant a virus in your bios and make you throw it away. I have lost at least one computer in suspicious ways while researching ufo underground bases and discussing it on ats.

child porn is usually for lesser offenses.



posted on May, 4 2013 @ 06:41 PM
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And that is why the law does not make sense. The people who create the child porn should be charged with a felony. The people who view it are perverts but how does that harm anyone?

Sex is a big deal only in conservative countries.



posted on May, 4 2013 @ 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
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And that is why the law does not make sense. The people who create the child porn should be charged with a felony. The people who view it are perverts but how does that harm anyone?

Sex is a big deal only in conservative countries.


ummm, sorry to call you on this, but IMHO, this is NOT A SEXUAL ISSUE, WHATSOEVER. I'm liking sex as much as anyone....always have. There is a difference between sex, consenting, aware adults, and what is being described here. and sorry, but what this is should be a very big deal anywhere. Because ultimately it isn't sex....it's control, subjugation, exploitation, and none of those, in my book, have absolutely anything to do with healthy, natural sex.....



posted on May, 4 2013 @ 06:52 PM
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Can you give a logical reason as to why the Pentagon has been monitored downloading child porn... Over 5000 users accessed and DL imagery... Unless the Pentagon is just full of pedos I would guess to some extent it was done for a reason.



posted on May, 4 2013 @ 06:55 PM
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Originally posted by tetra50

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
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And that is why the law does not make sense. The people who create the child porn should be charged with a felony. The people who view it are perverts but how does that harm anyone?

Sex is a big deal only in conservative countries.


ummm, sorry to call you on this, but IMHO, this is NOT A SEXUAL ISSUE, WHATSOEVER. I'm liking sex as much as anyone....always have. There is a difference between sex, consenting, aware adults, and what is being described here. and sorry, but what this is should be a very big deal anywhere. Because ultimately it isn't sex....it's control, subjugation, exploitation, and none of those, in my book, have absolutely anything to do with healthy, natural sex.....


I wasn't condoning child molestation in the slightest, I was implying sexual misconduct/crimes in the general sense are overblown in conservative countries, much like narcotic useage. What one does with their private life should be their business alone if it does not harm others.



posted on May, 4 2013 @ 07:00 PM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
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And that is why the law does not make sense. The people who create the child porn should be charged with a felony. The people who view it are perverts but how does that harm anyone?

Sex is a big deal only in conservative countries.


Because, by viewing child pornography, you are 'fuelling the middle man'; the 'creator'. Although I'm far from an expert on child pornography, I'm going to assume that the 'creators' do not distribute it for free, especially with the level of risk involved. Some people will do anything for a few pennies, and if they can find a market for it, then they'll continue. If, for some reason currently beyond my comprehension, it is distributed for free, then by viewing it you are still showing them that there is a want for it, and in a sense asking/telling them to continue.

I understand what you are saying. You believe it is like you are a bystander; you have happened to witness the events, but have not participated. You shouldn't be charged because you just happened to see it, but with child pornography, with the exception of the case this thread is about, I'm guessing you'd have to do a lot of searching. It's not something that you just 'happen to witness'.



posted on May, 4 2013 @ 07:01 PM
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Unless the Pentagon is just full of pedos


I know this may be an unpopular and hard to accept thing, but I think your answer lay in what I quoted..right there.

There are sides to the open net and larger sides to deeper areas of the world wide web that are so extensive and so enormous in their scale and scope, as to suggest a community of very ill people that range MUCH larger than we'd suspect. I've watched as molesters in shockingly high profile positions in this nation have been discovered and exposed and I've been baffled as much as disgusted. Then, we've seen the truly unthinkable. The ULTRA-High profile people in England who some grew up with "knowing" on their television sets from childhood to adulthood. Not merely accused, but established to be baby rapers and enthusiastic pedophiles.

There was a Law and Order: SVU Episode I can never forget because of how the outcome and final words of that one haunted me for the truth it may really hold. Stabler was finishing the interrogation of a particularly vile Pedophile when the Pedo looked him square in the eyes and said, paraphrased, 'There are more of us than there are of you. You'd never believe it, if you knew the truth'. Then I see things like "To Catch A Predator" and not just how they never have ANY problem with a near endless line of 'contestants' for 'Who wants to be a felon on national TV', but just WHO some of them turn out to BE in real life positions.

You ask, in a dismissive way, if the Pentagon may have that many Pedo's? Well.. I truly wonder... Some of the people Chris Hansen has helped bag on that show were serving Officers of the United States Military. They do appear to be everywhere in society. (heavy sigh)



posted on May, 4 2013 @ 07:03 PM
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Just because it does not directly harm someone, it does not mean that your actions do not fuel the harm of children through sexual abuse.

(Not you personally. Hypothetically speaking.)



posted on May, 4 2013 @ 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by Leyton

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
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And that is why the law does not make sense. The people who create the child porn should be charged with a felony. The people who view it are perverts but how does that harm anyone?

Sex is a big deal only in conservative countries.


Because, by viewing child pornography, you are 'fuelling the middle man'; the 'creator'. Although I'm far from an expert on child pornography, I'm going to assume that the 'creators' do not distribute it for free, especially with the level of risk involved. Some people will do anything for a few pennies, and if they can find a market for it, then they'll continue. If, for some reason currently beyond my comprehension, it is distributed for free, then by viewing it you are still showing them that there is a want for it, and in a sense asking/telling them to continue.

I understand what you are saying. You believe it is like you are a bystander; you have happened to witness the events, but have not participated. You shouldn't be charged because you just happened to see it, but with child pornography, with the exception of the case this thread is about, I'm guessing you'd have to do a lot of searching. It's not something that you just 'happen to witness'.


Thats like going after drug users rather than the big time drug dealers. There is a demand for drugs so people sell them. There is a demand for sex so people go to the brothels. There is a demand for guns so people buy them illegally.

Its not cut and dry. But I do understand what you are implying!





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