1,700 Kids Threatened with Suspension: Get Vaccinated or Get Out!

That's crazy, I live in California and was just having these same problems... The school tried everything in their power to not admit there was a way to opt out, but there is (at least in California)..
I even tried reasoning with them, when they said My Child was putting everyone at risk who is vaccinated I suggested that if they are vaccinated then they are the carriers and would be putting my child at risk....that didn't go over well but I still think that's true. But anyways we got a lawyer named Inga Sanders involved and suddenly we were presented an opt out form. SURPRISE SURPRISE HUH???

After finding out that the Polio Vaccine Causes CFS and the new round of immunization can turn a perfectly healthy kid into a brain dead vegetable, I decided I'd either relocate or Home school my kids if need be. Thankfully everything worked out at least for this year, who knows what's to come.

Originally posted by SMOKINGGUN2012
The need of the many outweigh the needs of the few

This country was founded on liberty for the individual, not the collective good. Perhaps you'd feel more comfortable in Red China?

Originally posted by SMOKINGGUN2012
So in reality it turns out she had an ENTIRE extra round of shots......and NO side effects.

Except for the loss of IQ which you won't notice. Except for the much greater chance of degenerative diseases like cancer and diabetes in the future.

I will never never never inject my child with their damn poisons. One of the reasons I have HUGE immune function problems is due to the vaccinations in my childhood, so says my neurologist, immunologist, and internal disease specialist. I have had some serious health problems and I have walked through the fire of health crisis for two years now trying to figure out what is wrong with me. When an immunologist sits down and tells me that vaccinations I received CAUSED my problems, I know the truth now, and that truth is, those vaccines are poison.

As for Pertussis (whooping cough), my sister's non vaxed child caught it from a child that IS vaccinated from it. Vaccinations do not stop you from getting anything, they weaken your body and destroy your immune system. I'm walking, living, breathing proof of that.

You realize that govt shill Dr. Oz's wife will NOT allow her children to be vaccinated? They do not vaccinate their child, yet Dr Oz touts those poison shots all of the time.



Flu shots..... I know two people personally, one in the 30's and another in their 40's who almost died after taking the H1N1 shot. My best friend's teenage daughter took the HPV vaccine and within 8 hours, lost feeling up and down her legs, had to be rushed to a hospital. Her speech slurred and she had a seizure on the way to the hospital.

My daughter does not go to the public school and never will. There are so many people who are comfortable with putting their children's lives in the hands of strangers. So many people use the school as their baby sitter because dealing with their children is too difficult. Now look at what you have. You have a school system trying to take over and parent your child. It's gone too far but many have asked for it, so here we are.

Originally posted by NewsWorthy
That's crazy, I live in California and was just having these same problems... The school tried everything in their power to not admit there was a way to opt out, but there is (at least in California)..
I even tried reasoning with them, when they said My Child was putting everyone at risk who is vaccinated I suggested that if they are vaccinated then they are the carriers and would be putting my child at risk....that didn't go over well but I still think that's true. But anyways we got a lawyer named Inga Sanders involved and suddenly we were presented an opt out form. SURPRISE SURPRISE HUH???

After finding out that the Polio Vaccine Causes CFS and the new round of immunization can turn a perfectly healthy kid into a brain dead vegetable, I decided I'd either relocate or Home school my kids if need be. Thankfully everything worked out at least for this year, who knows what's to come.

They will do anything to get that poison injected into children. I had to go to a health care clinic when I was out of town for strep throat. First damn thing the doctor says is, "Are you up to date on your flu shots?" I said "I don't take flu shots" and he said, "If you don't take a flu shot, you might give the flu to your children". I immediately said "I don't appreciate you trying to guilt me into taking the flu shot" and he just looked at me in a nasty way. Does he think I'm stupid? That I wouldn't recognize his tactics? I'm done with these games. I've been alive long enough to see how healthcare is changing. They want your picture, your drivers license, they want every bit of info on you they can get. They want everything about you in their computers now.

They wanted me to sign a paper the last time at the doctor agreeing to share my immunization record in a data base. I refused to sign. What happens when the day comes that I can't refuse it?

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I know its wrong, but the solution is simple

move school

but dont let them jab your kids ,who knows whats in there

anything forced as got to be bad

Originally posted by NuclearPaul

Originally posted by NeoSocialist
I totally agree with this. Yes theyre your children, but what about others that may be at serious risk from dangerous viruses such as measles and mumps?

Well, those others can get the vaccine if they want.

I've never understood why non-vaccinated people are a threat to vaccinated people.

yeah its like they got vaccinated for nothing, if they think non-vaccinated people are a threat.

So your child just got vaccinated, oh but that boy in his class isn't vaccinated his going to infect your vaccinated child, do they realize they just admitted that these vaccinations don't work.

Its only money they are trying to pump into big pharma companies, they don't know what they are pumping into you really.

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If I knew this when my kids were young I'd probably never let anyone stick any kind of needle in them. Governments care so little about personal rights and personal welfare that they'll secretly inject people with all kinds of diseases and not blink an eye.

A History of US Secret Human Experimentation

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But some people can't as they are allergic to the vaccine, do therefore it is everyone else's obligation to get the jab so that it doesn't spread.

Also how about people with a suppressed immune system, such as people getting chemo?
I believe it's our moral duty to protect these people.

The dr who came up with the idea that mmr was linked to autism has been completely discredited.
The man should be in prison.

This is why I said look at the bigger picture.

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So are you saying that I have to get the "jab" and inject poison to protect people on chemo?! They are more than welcome to stay inside their home or protect themselves using methods that they should already be using with a weakened immune system.

I think it is absurd that you expect millions of people to get a shot to protect people that are week or compromised. It is their responsibility to protect their own health. Just as it is my right to protect mine and opt out of injecting poisons into my body!

(And before you say I am heartless, I have cared for loved ones going through chemo. I know that their immune system can become their worst enemy through chemo. That is why they must take measures to protect themselves as it is.)

If the needs and happiness of the individual come second, after the need of the 'collective' then the 'collective' is not worth having!

If necessary, Home School! It is a far superior form of education.

As always, if people want to be vaccinated they have every right to be and should be, BUT those who do NOT wish to be vaccinated should never be forced!

When the Individual is put first then all falls into place much better, never perfectly of course, but much better!

This sort of thing makes me really angry! I would never accept a vaccination. If I was a kid in school I would also refuse and if they booted me, so be it. This is outrageous and I hope that angry parents make a stand over this nonsense!

And these are public schools..? How is this even legal?? We all pay towards public education with our tax dollars and we are certainly not all on board with this money-hungry, poorly researched-and-developed vaccination crap!

Most people who I know who gets vaccinated for the flu, etc. still get sick anyway! Ridiculous!

my grands have been exempted form these vaccine type programs through waiver forms that my kids(parents) filled out.
I have one grand daughter was home birthed and has never had any vaccines - never been sick (6 years old).
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Originally posted by starviego

Except for the loss of IQ which you won't notice. Except for the much greater chance of degenerative diseases like cancer and diabetes in the future.

I guess of course you can prove that all those things happen to every single person with shots huh?
Funny how people claim that ALL shots are nothing but POISON. Really? Where are your statistics to back that up that show 100% of people who have had shots have been poisoned? What are you parents going to do in the future when a DIRECT link can be be shown to a child that did not get their shots being the cause of 1 or more other people's deaths? It will happen.......it is only a matter of time.

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Well said, I know we're clearly un the minority here but I totally agree.

As I said earlier, there is direct evidence of someone dieing in Wales as a result of measles.
This outbreak was caused by people refusing the vaccine.

There is absolutely no evidence that these vaccines cause any harm, it's just based on paranoid bull#.

I really don't understand you people .
why would you want to chance your kid dyeing from a preventable thing?
Ok so your worried about getting shot with live viruses then opt for the dead shot .
That's what I did .it works just fine .No problems no kids sick either 6 boys at that.
And the times when they did get sick it wasn't from a shot or lack of one.
One boy rushed to the er around 2 doctor comes in says Scarlet fever I almost fell over .
he then says o don't worry we can stop it now a days .Next day kid was fine.
I grante your kid gets sick you will be rushing him to the doctor.
Or maybe you are Jehovah witness ? and your willing to let your kid die if he needs blood .
well that's ok my kids are safe from yours they had what they needed . and the world is a crowed place so sooner or later when a big outbrake hits mine will live in a world with more room thanks to people that refused to protect there kids.
But hey you probly love guns maybe you can kill the measles with it.

Originally posted by NeoSocialist
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As I said earlier, there is direct evidence of someone dieing in Wales as a result of measles.

Did this person have their vaccinations? If not, why not. If they did not, then I assume no one forced them to not have the vaccination, or to come in contact with another person that had the measles.

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There's no point discussing this any further.

This is really worth reading though...

www.kevinmd.com...

Originally posted by midnightstar
why would you want to chance your kid dyeing from a preventable thing?

Every year, kids are killed or maimed for life because of the vaccines forceably injected into them. In some cases the death/injury rate for vaccines is greater than the death/injury rate from the actual disease! And that doesn't include neurological damage like lowered IQ, Asberger's Syndrome, and Autism, nor does it include the eventual cancers resulting from cancer viruses that have been discovered in these poisons.

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I wonder just how many vaccines that anesthesiologist (the one who wrote the article) gives on a regular basis? She does have a point about preventative medicine though.

Anyhow, I agree to disagree. But let me add this, (I always feel like I need to have the last word, ) my children are vaccinated. I saw no adverse side affects. It took me lots of discussions with the pediatrician and research before I made the decision to give them the shots. I made the choice, and I knew I would have to own it if something bad happened.

Now with that being said, I don't think anyone should be forced into the vaccines. Those that get the shots should be protected and have nothing to fear, (right?). Those that choose not to get the shots put themselves in danger and make their own decision about their health. They know they should avoid those areas and people who would put them at risk.

Why must we force the vaccines on people? Where is freedom of choice. I just don't think we should take the choice away from people.

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This kind of thing is what makes me terrified of ever having children when I'm older.

My generation is bad enough. I'm a teenager, and I've been to some of the worst schools this country has to offer... I can only imagine what my child would go through the next go round.

What scares me even more is, a lot of friends who are close to my age are pregnant, and most of them are non-conspirators. They don't pay it any mind when I tell them not to vaccinate their kids, or I get the "Are you effing stupid?" response.

I once got a vaccination without getting the form signed. Even as a little kid, I NEVER let anyone vaccinate me. I've always had a natural distrust for authority, and for shots/vaccines (its gotten me in a lot of trouble, landing me in those alternative schools I spoke of)

This is gross. FREAKIN' gross.

ADVICE TO THOSE WHO HAVE CHILDREN IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS, ATS!

Get a religious waver, saying your family is orthodox Jewish or something. My fiance's mother did that when he was growing up, and they didn't bother sending him home with the paperwork, and he never got a vaccine in school.

That's not to say it isn't possible that a child with a religious waver won't get vaccinated in school behind your back (God forbid), but it certainly helps.

If I don't have the means to homeschool my child or children (when and if I have any), I'll do the religious waver thing. It seems to be the best option for parents who are "awake," and who can't afford to homeschool their babies.

EDIT; This whole thing reminded me to post this video somewhere on ATS.

Just look at this commercial.

Its a commercial for the "whooping cough" vaccine. Watch this commercial, and observe how traumatizing it is. Can you imagine a young mother who's just given birth to her first child watching this? It would traumatize them... and send them running to the hospital to get their child another uneeded dose of poison.



Another psychological attack on mothers to poison their babies.