reply to post by ErosA433
These are very impassionate words.
The issue taken is that much of what you say Swan001 is that you seem to suggest that scientists don't pursue all the possibilities.
Many scientists pursue different possibilities. What I critic is the System's tendency to overlook these possibilities. Kinda, yeah, just dump 'em in
ArXiv and that's all. For example: take Dragan Hajdukovic's theory that gravitational fields are dipoles, like magnetic fields, and that antimatter is
the other pole. I never heard of him until my good friend CLPrime found an article about him. I critic the fact that every other theories except DM
are left in the dark, and DM is the only one enjoying the spotlight while those scientists who come up with alternatives are barely heard.
what field are you in? what do you do?
To answer your question more directly: No, I have no PhD. No diploma, no certificate, and my work is almost unrelated to this physics. I'm just some
random guy from Quebec.
how do you possibly know all this 'information' on what the people do
Many scientists expressed their concerns about the system. Robert O. Becker, even Stephen Hawking when he said that more transparency should be placed
so the public may have more ability to voice opinions about the system's theories. If you wish to oppose their critics about the System, be my guest.
It is good to question, science is all about questioning, but your rhetoric is rather aggressively dismissive of current theory without in my
opinion truly understanding that theory.
You are entitled to have an opinion. But there are many theories I do support. Those I don't support I discuss in my threads. Those I support I feel
no need to talk about. ''Hey, Hello ATS, This is Swanne. Just wanted to pop in and tell you, Standard Model rocks. Okay gotta go now. '' You
simply stating that you think it is wrong... is not enough, it is close to the others where it is said "I think this theory is wrong... you
prove my statement incorrect"
That's funny. That's basicially how Dark Matter theory works! ''As nobody can't observe WIMPS, We decide that WIMPS are everywhere, prove us wrong''.
And no one can, because no one has the tech to see WIMPS. Only their positron, antiprotons and gamma by-product, caused by supposed annihilation, and
which we didn't observed in the right quantities anyway. I share your frustration, only in the opposite direction: When People use "science" to push
new-age of aquarius nonesense, that's frustrating, and I'll always oppose that. New Age is slowly corrupting the way people view science, and
something should be done about that!
Once more, since you are making all these statements on what galaxies are and what dark matter is, to have only just found out this information
it really appears to me that you do not really see the big picture or have the learned background more than you have just read online just now....
I am honest to tell you the things I just found out. I don't know about you, but I beleive morality is more important than lying just to avoid looking
stupid. Lying won't make science progress, you know. I thought you would know that.
I am afraid that I found disturbing weakness in your post too: the fact that you didn't know elliptical galaxies's stars have radial trajectories
tells me you are still learning the background too.
We aren't walking encyclopedias, we are humans. Instead of attacking one another, why not actually help each other out to actually try and see the
Real bigger picture?
My statement that stars may be spiralling down is actually verificable, just like DM. Just calculate the 3-D shape of M1.
this idea of 'the mainstream' is completely (and i am being frank) crap, it simply doesn't exist...
You mean, like, these guys who criticized the System were all wrong.
these scientists study because they love the field, love the science, they want to know things more than they want their salary...
people really should stop accusing everyone of some kind of dishonesty...
My critics are not towards the scientists. They are toward the system which block those hard working scientists.
You should find, if you approach the issue correctly, many of them willing and happy to reply to you.
I fear that no one will even consider listening to a low-class dude with no certifications and from some remote village. I'm nobody, remember.
Yes there are many incomplete parts of theory, but to say something is incomplete and thus wrong and the scientists are being dumb and you are
the keeper of the truth... is really ludicrous
You are jumping to conclusions here. I never said people were dumb, neither that I was the keeper of the truth. I proposed what you would call, wait
for it, this is grand, a Hypothesis. Sorry, I thought we still had freedom of speech - at least here on ATS.
These motions are corrected for our sun and Earth's motion, and looking through the CMB? Sooo what is the significance of the CMB really have
on this? When you speak of relative motions, we are at a very long distance away, the centre of the galaxy doesn't move by very much, but since you
are so knowledgable you would have good control over star maps, how to point telescopes, how to correct for relative motion of the stars and the sun
and the Earth?
The sun's motion was based upon observation of CMB redshift. But the proper motion of other stars were based upon their relative motion relative to
us. Thus the proper motion of stars is only INDIRECTLY connected to CMB. Because proper is based on relative, the motion of stars are only an
estimate, and may be subject to second-order motion which wouldn't show in our observations if ALL stars (including the reference point - us) move
more or less in the same said second-order motion.
The Crab nebula is at roughly 180 degrees from the Core of the Milky Way, galactic coordinates. Its perseus-ward area would start spiralling down now,
and its orion-ward section shortly follow behind. Unfortunately there is uncertainty about its distance from Earth in the first place. Due to this
uncertainty we are unable to map, execept only a tiny fraction, our entire galaxy with precision. Hopefully in the near future one would find a way to
resolve this uncertainty and have more resolution on M1's three-dimensional shape to see if it spirals down or not.
I feel you are taking my posts in a very personnal matter. Please note that I do not intend my posts as personnal attacks, and should NEVER be
interpreted as such unless when specified. In my OP I simply showed a hint that DM may not be the ultimate theory.
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