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reply to post by TheBlackHat
Text "I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High." Uh.. That's what Jesus said.
Originally posted by Lone12
reply to post by TheBlackHat
..i think your thread title is a *bit* too presumpteous friend.
the whole point of the dying and ressurection
is to can get us óut of this blind dumb frame
into a total new being
..instead of 'pimping this frame up ' to be able to perform some above-ordinairy acts
Originally posted by Witness123
This crap gets about 20 stars and this is the site that claims to deny ignorance? You people are delusional, lunatic fringe. How do you get from saying a guy who claimed to be the Messiah could walk on water to say that anyone could walk on water? Don't you think a guy in such a position would have a unique ability to do something of that sort? Why don't you just reject it and say it's nonsense but to just say that He did it because He had faith... no, either He didn't do it at all or He did it because He had miraculous power to violate physical laws, but not because of faith.
Why did it make the reference to Peter's faith? Which one of us could walk on water right now and not sink? But if you were friends with a guy who is proven to do miracles and is best friend's with the God of all the earth and He does it, then says, "Hey why don't you come out here and join me..." what then? I would be out there at the first opportunity. You don't just have faith that things fall up or that the sun freezes Mercury. That is clearly impossible!
I am assuming, but logic tells me that the miracles are impossible. Do you really think that Rome, of all people, would really let the truth out there? They were murderers and liars for over a thousand years before they legalized Christianity, they wouldn't have changed that.
You see the world around us today right? We can't get the truth on hardly ANYTHING, do you really think they'd allow us to have the ultimate "truth" for over 2,000 years? I think it's a bit ignorant to think they would. To think they would is to ignore history and the world around us today.
That interests me. You remember the most famous of all syllogisms: "All men are mortal, Socrates is a man, therefore, Socrates is mortal." If you've got the time, would you tell me how logic shows miracles are impossible? Right now, I don't see it.
I am assuming, but logic tells me that the miracles are impossible.
Originally posted by TheBlackHat
See, in the end, modern day christian's do not believe you go anywhere if you die, if they truly did believe in the afterlife, why then are they are all holding out for the return of Jesus and the end of days, in hopes they will be raptured...What a lack of faith indeed. And what a materialistic view of heaven, when at the heart of Jesus message was to be non materialist, and self sacrificing.. oh the irony.
Perhaps, just maybe, you're in the wrong work? Could you be a teacher? Perhaps an encourager of your fellow believers? You know there are many gifts, have you found yours?
11And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Originally posted by iamhobo
What about the individuals who convince themselves they can fly so they jump off a building---just to end up dying.
I think there is something else missing besides the 100% faith factor. Very interesting nonetheless.
Originally posted by AdevDragon
Ol' Russian is difficult to read and understand. Closer to Greek closer to Gentiles, whom Jesus showed Mercy. The underlying message is to believe and have faith. The elephant in the room is your tv and modern translations. Adding yet another layer of paint to the wall. Even if i wanted to see the first ever Graffiti in my Urine smelling staircases here in the projects, how many layers of paint would i have to peel away? Just listen to ManLESS messages. Stay away from your Individualized approach to life because that is the easiest way to "get by". Have interest in no matters concerning man.