posted on May, 3 2013 @ 05:18 PM
Originally posted by TheBlackHat
Firstly, Jesus said we are all Gods children, this would indicate that if Jesus was Gods son and we are also Gods children, then Jesus was an ordinary
man and not "special", or "chosen". I am basing this assumption on Jesus own words and interpreting them directly.
Gods only Son - We are his children. I think it was Edgar Cayce that mentioned that Christ was the soul giver to man, IE each of us have a small part
of his soul so take from that what you will. Obviously Jesus was not an ordinary person, but IMO we do have some of what he had/has. We are just to
dumb to tap into it.
This leads to another conclusion. When Jesus was walking on water he had Peter, one of his apostles, with him. So not only was Jesus walking on water
but so was Peter, however when Peter started to sink under the waves Jesus said "You of little faith,". This suggests strongly that Jesus achieved
his miracles simply because he believed, without question, that he could perform such feats.
Yes, for him - he could tap in but not for us. We ordinary people cant handle that kind of power responsibly.
Further more, the apostles could talk in tongues, another miracle yet the apostles were supposedly ordinary fishermen, yet capable of miracles.
Indicating ordinary people are capable of miracles, not just Jesus. But if ordinary people are capable of miracles then how would that make Jesus any
more "special" than an ordinary man with supreme and extraordinary belief? Exactly.
The apostles were allowed to tap in by the grace of Christ and God.
Ordinary man (you and me) we are dumbed down to a level where we can not harm ourselves. Can you imagine what the greedy world would be like if
everybody had these types of powers just because we believe. Maybe when we start acting like a civilized planet of people then we will be allowed to
progress. There are nefarious dark people that try to tap into the POWER by alternate methods and usually meet a dire fate. The rest of us know better
because we know we cant handle it. Once you open that door all sorts of nasty things can come in and if you dont have the faith to handle it you will
be in big trouble. Just ask someone that has just cracked the door with an Ouija board or some other method with bad results. I cracked and peeped
through the door one time and that was enough for me.
In fact i doubt Jesus ever really claimed to be special or chosen.
Doubt is the wrong word to use. He is quoted.....
Further more, when Jesus died and rose from the dead, it has been said he died to wipe our sins away and give us everlasting life. This obviously
cannot be true if you look at how this is preached by modern day Christianity. Obviously if Jesus died so we could live forever, then we would all
live forever "literally" here on earth, and people from 2000 years ago would all still be alive today. No, instead we are told the everlasting life
is in heaven, but we have to "literally" die to get there...but, according to the Bible Jesus literally died and literally rose from the dead in the
flesh. This is yet another "literal" miracle, the biggest of the lot, yet what people miss is the other miracles significance.
Not exactly true. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have
everlasting life. What makes you think this life has anything to do with everlasting life and or what our 5 senses tell us is REAL life?? This life is
an illusion and we stuck here for now. Why in the He!! would anybody want to live forever on this planet in its current form is beyond me. There is no
death, only change.
if peter could walk on water and the apostles could speak in tongues, and Lazarus also rose from the dead, then that means according to my
understanding...when Jesus said he died for our sins and rose again to give us everlasting life... it doesn't mean we can carry on as usual just like
before Jesus existed and live and die, but rather he showed us that a human being can literally rise from the dead.
Like I said I think the Bible is a lot more literal than spiritual.
The Bible was put together in its various iterations to steer Christianity in the direction that a certain group of early Christians preferred. It
was also written for people long ago with simple minds. We will never know the real story of what he was really like in person and what he really
wanted for us as a planet except have faith in him, but if you read some of the early books that were left out of the bible you will begin to form a
picture. The word Love is mentioned a lot.
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