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posted on May, 2 2013 @ 04:22 PM
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Next Asian crisis arrives: Chinese soldiers make military incursion into India- India considers response


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China has over the last few days moved troops into India.
A platoon of Chinese soldiers slipped across the boundary into India in the middle of the night, according to Indian officials. They were ferried across the bitterly cold moonscape in Chinese army vehicles, then got out to traverse a dry creek bed with a helicopter hovering overhead for protection. They finally reached their destination and pitched a tent in the barren Depsang Valley in the Ladakh region, a symbolic claim of sovereignty deep inside Indian-held territory. So stealthy was the operation that India did not discover the incursion until a day later, Indian officials said. China denies any incursion, but Indian officials say that for two weeks, the soldiers have refused to move back over the so-called Line of Actual Control that divides Indian-ruled territory from Chinese-run land, leaving the government on the verge of a crisis with its powerful northeastern neighbor.
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posted on May, 2 2013 @ 04:22 PM
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I have noticed over the last few months that China is getting more daring with big troop build up in Japan area, but I was shocked to find that this Indian situation has started too, but this is all about the world getting more hungry for war as the weeks go by.
The chances are that China & America and Japan will come to blows before many more months are out.

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posted on May, 2 2013 @ 04:29 PM
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China and India have fought a war over some of the high-altitude terrain along their border - it was a bit of a disaster for the Indians!

The wiki article on India-china border disputes has more historical info & links.

this looks like China moving troops into/through/around that part of the disputed area that it claims control over, and India protesting "pro forma" because it claims that area too - even though it has no effective control over it.

So essentially this is nothing much different to what has ben happening there for several decades.



posted on May, 2 2013 @ 04:34 PM
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Yes your quite right, the two have has problems for some time, but the dangers of conflict between nations are more real than ever today than just 6 months ago, so many flash points on the go now anything could happen.



posted on May, 2 2013 @ 04:36 PM
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Here's another source...

(a little more reliable in my opinion)

Washington Post: 2-week Chinese incursion into Indian territory leaves Asian giants on verge of crisis

From reading this article, it seems India is taking offense to this incursion, but seem reluctant (fearfully so imo) to react...


Indian officials fear that if they react with force, the face-off could escalate into a battle with the powerful People’s Liberation Army. But doing nothing would leave a Chinese outpost deep in territory India has ruled since independence.

“If they have come 19 kilometers into India, it is not a minor LAC violation. It is a deliberate military operation. And even as India protests, more tents have come up,” said Sujit Dutta, a China specialist at the Jamia Milia Islamia university in New Delhi.

“Clearly, the Chinese are testing India to see how far they can go,” he said.


China on the other hand is taking a more lackadaisical view...


That is not China’s stated view.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said Thursday that Chinese troops had been carrying out normal patrols and had not crossed the boundary.

“China is firmly opposed to any acts that involve crossing the Line of Actual Control and sabotaging the status quo,” she said at a daily briefing in Beijing as she was repeatedly questioned about the dispute.

Hua said talks to defuse the dispute were ongoing and that it should not affect relations. “As we pointed out many times, the China-India border issue is one which was left over from the past. The two sides reached important consensus that this issue should not affect the overall bilateral relations,” Hua said.


Seems to me that there is still some confusion on where the "Line" of "Control" "Actually" is.

Interesting event...one to keep an eye on at any rate.



posted on May, 2 2013 @ 04:48 PM
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India considers response? Ahm... no. Change title:

Chinese soldiers make military incursion into India - India considers getting her ass kicked in public - Next: Pakistan rejoices.

Besides... China does need some freebie to show its might, and it need a bit of target practice for those new toys of theirs. And since nothing is happening in the korean peninsula might as well test them on some other... well.. friendly neighbor. Of course they rather test all that crap on those damn japanese... but thats ok, you cant always get what you want. (damn you japan why u no attack us with your toy army?)

All in due time.

EDIT: I'm sorry... where was my mind at. Correction: "Pakistan rejoices and joins the ass kicking"
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posted on May, 2 2013 @ 05:15 PM
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This is also about the South china Sea....
How that can be so.s a matter of India taking the side of Vietnam in a dispute over the oil rights to it.
China claims way more territory than it legally could.
Phillipines, Vietnam,sendaku islands, now the Ladahk frontier
China has enough money guns and men to make war against somebody.....



posted on May, 2 2013 @ 05:27 PM
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Why can't they both use the land? World not big enough for the two of'em?



posted on May, 2 2013 @ 05:36 PM
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how do you depopulate the two countries with the biggest populations to meet a certain agenda.
Make them have a deadly war.



posted on May, 2 2013 @ 05:46 PM
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India is a very meticulous country in inviting aggression on itself. A very lazy and docile policy in terms of dealing with various issues. I would not be surprised is Indians are caught unprepared for a war with the neighbor they have had problems in the last 50 years regarding the border.


Chinese are commies and only thing commies know is to grab land of weaker nations and then flex muscles.

Chinese and Islamics need to be contained in the 21st century. Better for the human race!



posted on May, 2 2013 @ 05:56 PM
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Pretty sure capitalists do the same thing. However I'd say they both bring conflict upon themselves because of their refusal to share with one another. They both want the land and technically they can both have it, but neither of them are willing to share it so they'll die instead. No wonder aliens looking for intelligent life never landed here.



posted on May, 2 2013 @ 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by Symbiot
Why can't they both use the land? World not big enough for the two of'em?


That is a pretty naive statement, Symbiot. Sarcasm? If not, then...

The world isn't big enough for any one nation. Conflicts tend to be about resources and/or beliefs. This India-China dispute is mostly about resources -- land. If someone can figure out a way to provide all resources (e.g, food, water, land, etc.) to satisfy all humans, then you'd have solved a good number of wars and conflicts. But the reality is resources are finite and there's almost nil chance to convince 2 conflicting nations to set aside their egos and terstorones to share said resources.

This new development looks like the usual harassment China and India does to one another. Truthfully, it seems China is usually the agressor. Because it doesn't look like China will get any less docile in the forseeable future. Lets hope nothing escalates the situation and this event will be nothing more than a minor footnote in history.

Keep in mind, China plays it smart. Their leaders (civilian and military) think long-term (e.g., +25 years). While nations, like the US, are too focused on the short-term (e.g, 5 years). None of China's neighbors are safe.



posted on May, 2 2013 @ 06:07 PM
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Originally posted by Symbiot
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Pretty sure capitalists do the same thing. However I'd say they both bring conflict upon themselves because of their refusal to share with one another. They both want the land and technically they can both have it, but neither of them are willing to share it so they'll die instead. No wonder aliens looking for intelligent life never landed here.


Western capitalism is very different than Asian or South American. If you do not follow capitalist principles with honor and ethics then you are inviting communist elements to overthrow. That has what happened in Asia and S. America many times. In the western system, there is much more cleanliness and ethics in running the system and hence much more success. Western nations and especially America are not into land grabbing and looting other countries. This is very much true after WWII and more so because US came into forefront of the world as a comprehensive superpower in social, economic and military areas.

Regarding, China and India border issue, I think there is some line that was decided by the British and mostly both the countries abided by that border. China off and on, likes to poke its nose across the border and despite this India barely reacts. This time it seems, more than a poke has occurred and Indians have been caught unprepared for serious reaction to a country who's has stronger military than them.

India is a very sick and feminine nation and it's lulu spineless policies bring it shame and bad name. A country kind of lost in time if one looks at the pictures of common areas etc.
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posted on May, 2 2013 @ 06:14 PM
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From capitalists to communists everyone wants to own it all. That's why there's always conflict in the world no one wants to say this is ours they all want to say this is mine. In truth it's nobody's, but who cares about the truth eh? They're certainly welcome to fight over it, but no one's ever going to win.
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posted on May, 2 2013 @ 06:28 PM
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This conflict has gone for decades......dont forget.....neither side can afford the risk of nuclear escalation...
they are too proximate to each other.....
Both sides have large expendable populations to throw into the fray....
Fighting in that area would be brutal, infabtry slogging at high altitudes
like afghanistan but worse.....
The remoteness of the area is tempts small unit incursions,and the Chinese are persistent.



posted on May, 3 2013 @ 01:04 AM
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Originally posted by lambchop
how do you depopulate the two countries with the biggest populations to meet a certain agenda.
Make them have a deadly war.


Divide and conquer....and easy way to weaken both nations without lifting a finger..and in the process kill off some of the millions they said had to go to fit in with the agenda and save resources.



posted on May, 3 2013 @ 02:15 AM
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Thanks for the different source.
I think the key words in all of this is "Line of Actual control" China seems to have occupied the area to force dialog on who should own and protect that land and she has already showed who can control that area.

Crafty buggers really, I cannot imagine India wanting to escalate this into a military conflict so at the minute China has the upper hand as she is proving she can own the area, wasn't it only a few month ago drones were spotted in or around that area?



posted on May, 3 2013 @ 02:36 AM
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The same way the Chinese are fighting with the Japanese over the Senaku islands?

Like others have mentioned, Pakistan is a big, lame player in the hands of the chinese.

Where does Russia play in all of these calculations? You can bet the obozo administration is just "partying" and doesn't give a crap, or isn't smart enough, or wants to create a losing side (USA) in all of these land incursions.

This is going to be ugly - chechnyan "terrorists" in Boston? Russia has a huge problem with those peoples.

I'm afraid the innocent people of the world are going to have WW3 forced upon them, here, pretty shortly.

And who wins? The people who make money by the military/industrial complex.

I'm anti-communist, anti-liberal leaning, by the way.



posted on May, 3 2013 @ 05:05 AM
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Chinese are commies and only thing commies know is to grab land of weaker nations and then flex muscles. 

Chinese and Islamics need to be contained in the 21st century. Better for the human race!


What a complete load of rubbish! Of all the countries
i am worried about starting a war, china is not one of them.
They have proved you dont need wars to be a super power,
unlike some other countries.



posted on May, 3 2013 @ 06:09 AM
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If that is load of rubbish then good for your thinking!






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