posted on Nov, 4 2004 @ 03:34 PM
Looking at the voting map and its geographical makeup, I have determined that the North East and perhaps the west coast should secede. Hear me
Being that the majority of the country does not represent the values, morals and opinions of the democrats, liberals, leftists, artists, intellectuals
and socialists anymore, the time appears to have come to break away to form a more perfect union.
Those areas look to be the NorthEast, parts of the midwest and west coast. I will give you some quotes to help jar your mind into a different
"The real object of those who resorted to Secession, as well as those who sustained it, was not to overthrow the Government of the United States; but
to perpetuate the principles upon which it was founded. The object in quitting the Union was not to destroy, but to save the principles of the
-- Alexander Hamilton Stephens, Vice-President of the Confederacy
"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can
exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it. " - Abraham Lincoln
"Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that
suits them better. This is a most valuable, a most sacred right - a right which we hope and believe is to liberate the world. Nor is this right
confined to cases in which the whole people of an existing government may choose to exercise it. Any portion of such people, that can, may
revolutionize, and make their own of so much of the territory as they inhabit. " - Abraham Lincoln (SAY IT, SON!)
"The principle, (states rights) for which we contended is bound to reassert itself, though it may be at another time and in another form."
"Let’s begin the struggle for the well-being and independence of the Southern people by every honorable means." --Michael Hill, Chairman, League of
"Our enemies are pressing everywhere....I pray that the great God may aid us, and am endeavoring by every means in my power to bring out the troops
and hasten them to their destination." --Robert E. Lee, 1862
"Towering genius...thirsts and burns for distinction; and, if possible,
it will have it, whether at the expense of emancipating slaves or enslaving freeman." (or at the hands of right-wing morality - added by VOD)
--Abraham Lincoln, 1838
"A legitimate union of states "depends for its continuance on the free consent and will of the Sovereign people of each state," and " when that
consent and will is withdrawn on either part, their union is gone." Any state forced to remain in a union by military force" can never be a
co-equal member of the American Union " and can be viewed only as a "subject province." --Daily Union Newspaper, Bangor, Maine Nov. 13, 1860
"We protest solemnly in the face of mankind, that we desire peace at any sacrifice, save that of honor. In independence we seek no conquest, no
aggrandizement, no concession of any kind from the states with which we have lately been confederated. All we ask is to be let alone - that those who
never held power over us shall not now attempt our subjugation by arms. This we will, we must resist to the direst extremity. The moment that this
pretension is abandoned, the sword will drop from our grasp, and we shall be ready to enter into treaties of amnesty and commerce that cannot but be
mutually beneficial. So long as this pretension is maintained, with a firm reliance on that Divine Power which covers with its protection the just
cause, we must continue to struggle for our inherent right to freedom, independence, and self government. " !!!!!!!!!!!!!
--President Jefferson Davis’ first address to the Confederate Congress
That one was fantastic...what do you think liberalas????
"In our government-controlled schools we are taught that Lincoln was our greatest president because his war ended slavery and saved the Union. As
usual, the other side of the story -- the side that reflects poorly on the government--somehow gets lost. (Think about it democrats!!)
--Richard J. Maybury,
"Though many refuse to admit it, the United States has become a vast centralized power, overwhelmingly dominated and controlled by a
[right-wing-extremist] intelligentsia who continually pull this country to the [right], against the wishes of the [nothern] people. --William L
Cawthon, Jr., The South As An Independent Nation -1860
"Though many refuse to admit it, the United States has become a vast centralized power, overwhelmingly dominated and controlled by a liberal-leftist
intelligentsia who continually pull this country to the left, against the wishes of the Southern people." --William L Cawthon, Jr., The South As An
"...That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed." - Thomas
Jefferson, Declaration of Independence, 1776
"...the contest is not over, the strife is not ended. It has only entered upon a new and enlarged arena." --Jefferson Davis, address to the
Mississippi legislature 16 years after the war ended. (Boy was he right!)
"Federalism is not when the central government graciously allows the states to do this or that. That is just another form of administration. True
federalism is when the people of the states set limits to the central government. Fundamentally, federalism means states rights. The cause of states
rights is the cause of liberty. They rise or fall together." -- Clyde C. Wilson
"The Government of the absolute majority instead of the Government of the people is but the Government of the strongest interests; and when not
efficiently checked, it is the most tyrannical and oppressive that can be devised." - John C. Calhoun
"For 134 years the American people have been led to believe that the right of secession had been overturned by a ‘verdict of arms,’ but that isn’t
true….It is true the shot fired at Fort Sumter was a mistake since it provided the pretext for the Southland to be invaded by foreign troop, but the
right of secession realized through the ballot box remains an essential part of our constitutional order."
--George Kalas, , Chairman Emeritus, The Southern Party
"Contrary to popular belief, the War Between the States did not prove that the Southern States had no legal right to secede. In fact, many incidents
both preceding and following the War support the proposition that the Southern States did have the right to secede from the Union. Instances of
nullification prior to the War Between the States, contingencies under which certain states acceded to the Union, and the fact that the Southern
States were made to surrender the right to secession all affirm the existence of a right to secede.
In addition, the national Constitution’s failure to forbid secession and the various amendments concerning secession that were proposed while the
Southern States were seceding each strengthen the proposition: that the Southern States had an absolute right to secede from the Union prior to the
War Between the States. --H. Newcomb Morse, "The Foundations and Meaning of Secession," Stetson Law Review 15 (1986) p. 420.
and let us end with the great Paine, "These are the times that try men's souls: The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis,
shrink from the service of his country; but he that stands it Now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily
conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict the more glorious the triumph."
- Thomas Paine, The Crisis - December, 1776
There you have it liberals. Stop fretting over the election of the baboon in the cowboy hat. Stop feeling sorry that you choose to look at more
than one side of an issue. Stop feeling like your not a man if you dont "shoot first and think later". Stop feeling that you have to take this
hogwash of cardboard patriotism mixed with puritanical christianity any longer. Stop feeling like your opinions and values are wrong because the
majority of people in this country need fear and tyranny in their lives.
It's OK to be smart. Its OK to be educated. Its OK to reason things out first. Its OK to look at all the sides of an issue. Its OK to want to
help the less fortunate. Its OK not to believe the television. Its OK to stand up to bully's by having more knowledge. Its OK to be sensitive,
relfect on your feelings and be moved my them.
GODDAMN IT! Its time for you to get the representation you deserve. Stop being saddled by the tyranny of the mindless-robotcross-wearing-majority.
Break away! Form a government where your values are reflected. Where your policies can be implemented.
Its happened before...you just have to stop taking it!
you just have to stop taking it!
you just have to stop taking it!
you just have to stop taking it!
Everything is permissable - Hassan I Sabbath
[edit on 4-11-2004 by Voice_of Doom]