16 year old girl arrested, charged with felony for science project

www.dailymail.co.uk... html

We have a similiar bunch of half witted morons running the shop in the UK if you read the above link and what was done to this young man!!!

Time to prosecute those who report others and waste police time and happen to them what they try to do to others!!

Shame! Shame! and Double Shame on these Stasi fools!!!

[

Felony charges for this?????? C'mon!!! I did worst than this back in my school days and all that happened was suspension. If the chems where so dangerous how did she have access to them in the first place?

reply to post by Elliot


I had to open another bottle of wine after reading that.....

Good lord

reply to post by St0mP121


Thanks for your post! Very sad but very true imo.

I think of all the crap I did when I was young and I should be in a cell by today's standards.
I had friends and relatives in the area mentioned in the OP and I can say that it was a definite 'backwoods' mentality even back then. [at least with the people I knew]

Whats making me laugh is what would probably have happened with a drone strike on a 'backwoods' people!!

Just had a thought.
What would "playing doctor" be now a days?

Breaking News! 4 year old sentenced to life in prison for rape!!!

Originally posted by EllaMarina
I'm beginning to fully suspect that this is a way of indoctrinating the next generation into the mentality that weapons of all types are bad. Bombs aren't a good thing, obviously, but it probably stands to reason that using them side by side with guns in the weapon demonization process will reinforce an anti-gun mindset.

That being said... poor girl. Another victim in the war against not walking the straight and narrow. It's expulsion for the kids now. Next it's going to be death (or indefinite incarceration) for the adults.

Bright comment , if they cant Disarm the Current population and changing laws would bring to much resistance , why not Indoctrinate the young minds before they reach a mature age and are able to decide for themself if firearms are right or wrong.

TheGreazel

This is just stupid. How can she be charged for mixing household chemicals?? They are not that strong, and you won't get real injury unless you know exactly what you are doing.

When I was in school (not in US) for a few years the science lab was our classroom, Someone would say lets mix a few stuff, someone would add a few more, and we would make predictions about what would happen and then just mix it up, we ended up with lots of explosions, breaking beakers and all sorts of stuff, all was done without any teacher supervision, and these were NOT household chemicals but laboratory chemicals. We were just starting high school chemistry and no one in class really had any idea what would happen, Guess what we had no injuries, and all of us turned out fine. The only thing anyone got injured at my school was in sports, so maybe we should ban sports first?

Needless to say I and those with me continued the same thing at college (university), there we had to have a note signed by a professor, when we told him what we were doing he laughed, He had this book of signed notes, gave us a whole book (200 notes) told us to come back if we need more.

We continued the same with much more dangerous chemicals (college lab grade) needless to say we had some grasp of chemistry by this time, but we always tried to do what we didn't understand, not those that we did, still in my 5 years there no one got injured.

So what I say is let kids be kids, they do know how to keep safe (most of the time). Unless they get college level stuff or are really sloppy with high school grade chemicals I don't think anyone will get hurt, and if they do so what? that is the consequence to their action not expelling them.

reply to post by trollz


Yes, people have to be careful of "housing" chemicals.

I fear for us all.

When I was in school in 8th grade we dropped some lead bars into some hydrogen peroxide, watched them fizzle into nothing and collected the fumes into a very big balloon. Then our instructor took a yard stick with a match on the end of it touched the balloon and their was a big kaboom and quite a big fireball inside the classroom. Our instructor got a big kick out of it and he had informed the office prior that there would be a big boom.

It made the class interesting and got us interested in science and nobody freaked out, well maybe there was a scared wimp or two in the class that were upset, but nobody called to police and the instructor kept his job.

I imagine today such a teacher would be led off in handcuffs and on the national news.

reply to post by trollz


people are out of hand.Is there no real human beings left?It pisses you off when you read non sense like this.
bunch of spinless yellow bastards in my opinion.I would have told him so if I had been the kids parent.

reply to post by trollz


30 years ago, in my childhood, living in a communist regime in Eastern Europe we used to learn in chemistry classes all kind of stuff that could help in blowing up things.

We used to go out, buy chemicals from the shop without any restraint and build fireworks and petards, some of which were pretty powerfull. We used to blow them up as pranks, to scare our neighbours and nobody gave a dime on it.

Sometime the victims of the pranks were coming to rat on us at our parents and we got a good spank and two-three days grounded.

It is hilarious to see how a student these days can make the news with a bottle and some foam producing reaction. Its also sad to see the double speech gaining grounds. On one side we start wars and kill civilians in theire homes, on the other side we punish our youngsters for some innocent activities.

I hope the school will change its mind about this child and not destroy his life by expelling him.

reply to post by trollz


It wasn't a science project. As far as I can tell, there was no school involvement other than her being on their property.

So she made a bomb, basically.

It might be extreme, but we'd have gotten in trouble in my school days too, had we set off explosives on school grounds.

I know I know, outrage outrage I need a sign...

Originally posted by theMediator
"Hey what are you doing with that baking soda?....ARE YOU CRAZY? Get away from that vinegar you are gonna blow the whole universe apart!!"

I guess some people have so little control over their own life that controlling others is the only chance they have left to flatter their ego.

edit on 1-5-2013 by theMediator because: typo

Ahh I had no idea she was using vinegar and baking soda.

They just said household chemicals.

I assumed something like brake fluid and chlorine. I remember kids losing fingers and hands making that as a kid.

Who needs fingers and hands though, when you have freedom!

Originally posted by Bedlam
My how things have changed, and in about thirty years.

Our high school's version of gun control was that you had to lock your truck if you had a firearm, or store it in the school's rifle locker.

I built a still for my science fair project. And made whiskey in it for the demo - albeit not a lot. I also made RDX in what passed for a chem lab, and all I got for a warning was 'don't make much, and use the fume hood'.

These days I'd be in the pen.

Boy do I hear that!!!

Being born in the early '50s, I grew up in the time the druggist still measured out chemicals and actually sold them in an envelope over the counter. This poor girl's story brought back something I haven't thought about in a long, long time...

Unlike a lot of my friends, I enjoyed the library. Most of my life has been spent with my nose stuck in a book. In grade school I came across the ingredients for basic, "plain old" gunpowder. No problem... We already had some charcoal for the grill. I went to the drugstore and bought an envelope of sulfur and one of salt peter, even said what it was for when asked.

Mom and Dad had a beautiful old oak library table on the breezeway and I gathered my three piles of powder and a large glass ashtray and set to work.

The book had given the approximate amounts, so I took small pinches of each accordingly and swirled them together with popsicle stick, made a tiny mound and put a match to it. Nothing happened...

If at first you don't succeed. I kept adding a pinch of this and then a pinch of that and each time, nothing. Only problem was, it didn't occur to me that my pile grew with each attempt.

Yeah, it happened... I'm glad I didn't do any damage. Everything had been so finely ground that it was about like magician's flash powder but the breezeway stank and I had a black face and a sore *ss...

Look at this realistically though.

Pubic school has always harmed education, for example almost all of our great inventions and scientific theories were created by kids who were mostly home schooled by their parents. Now we are just innovators because we had our creativity sucked out of us through indoctrination into the dogma of "official statements".

Kids aren't taught about logical fallacies, about how to manage finances, or how the business world really works. They aren't even taught higher math half of the time, or a reasonable level of the sciences either for that matter.

So, I am glad this child was expelled.
Once the charges get dropped everything will work out just fine I hope.

Being kicked out of the brainwash factory is probably the best thing that ever happened to that kid, if you want to think about the longer term implications of how this will drastically effect the kid's future. It's a huge wake up call and it reveals a deep inescapable truth about how our system really works.

Stuff like this is exactly why I will never allow my kids in a public institution to be institutionalized.

I'll just teach my kids math and get them to read stuff like Carl Sagan and history books and some good literature, etc. And this strategy actually works extremely well compared to the garbage nationalized school socialism.

"Oh kids need to Socialize" - Oh Hell no they don't !
Socialize - Dictionary

1. To place under government or group ownership or control.
2. To make fit for companionship with others; make sociable.
3. To convert or adapt to the needs of society.

People simply don't realize what they are actually saying.
What they mean is , kids need friends to play with (which you don't need govt intervention or institutions to achieve).
But what they get in actual reality??
1. To place under government or group ownership or control.

That's what we get when we "Let our Kids Socialize".
That's why you sign a contract waiving your rights as a parent to the school district through the "enrollment process". And you have a right to refuse to sign any contract at any time no matter what nation you are in, they cannot force you to waive your rights as a human being.

Stop living on the knees.....Get up and sock this tyranny in the jaw.

Originally posted by snowspirit

Originally posted by LogicGrind
reply to post by trollz

 

It wasn't a science project.

www.theledger.com...

The girl told authorities she was conducting a science experiment, according to Bartow police, but science teachers at the school said they knew nothing about it.

She did this on her own with a lot of other kids around.

Why couldn't she be experimenting with a science project on her own?
Kids do science type experiments all the time without teachers.
It's part of being curious about how things work

I tried that once. Wanted to make an 'experiment' in my own house. No one would be harmed.

Pesky dont make drugs laws... who needs em.

reply to post by muzzleflash





[applauding] Well said. If a kid is bright and creative, they get beat down and made to conform with the expected, which these days = kinda dim bulb. Seeing college age kids that can't name a country sharing a border with America depresses me and p*sses me off at the same time...

Originally posted by Ghost375

Originally posted by theMediator
"Hey what are you doing with that baking soda?....ARE YOU CRAZY? Get away from that vinegar you are gonna blow the whole universe apart!!"

I'm assuming she used more dangerous chemicals than just baking soda and vinegar.

if you've ever taken even basic chemistry courses in college, you would know chemicals aren't something ANYONE should be messing around with, let alone a 16 year old. She could have just as easily blown off one of her own arms, eyes, or another kids limbs.

She just wanted to see what happened to those chemicals in the bottle,

I'm sorry but you do NOT do that with chemicals. That is extremely dangerous.

I would guess she won't be convicted of a felony here. Being charged is not the same as being convicted.


ATS is really showing their ignorance on this thread. Mixing chemicals should not be taken lightly. It should only be done in a laboratory, and, for kids, under strict supervision.

edit on 1-5-2013 by Ghost375 because: (no reason given)

edit on 1-5-2013 by Ghost375 because: (no reason given)

edit on 1-5-2013 by Ghost375 because: (no reason given)

It's striking that the one guy in this thread who can read and not jump the gun on getting emotional, has been banned, and you ghost, seemed to be ignored for your reply also.

But everyone else slapping each other on the back, harassing some reporter (or blogger with a fancy badge, who cares) continue to screech "Uhhuuu ban the waters ban the sodas..." while regurgitating their own fetid illogical claims.

She must be allowed to blow things up because drones strikes in the middle east!!!! ra ra ra

what insanity... you children need rules or you'd walk off short piers without any problem.

Originally posted by CornShucker

Unlike a lot of my friends, I enjoyed the library. Most of my life has been spent with my nose stuck in a book.

Good call, in a library you can find more truth in a day than you will find on TV in an entire lifetime. Which is a hardcore fact for anyone who knows much about anything.

My family goes to the local libraries where ever we are once a week, and have been doing that for years.
We had our girl reading real literature like Tale of Two Cities, Hobbit, Animal Farm, etc already. She is pretty good at it because guess what, anyone can read they just need practice. I am personally well versed in many things and I will say there is a ton I do not know, even about spelling or grammar issues. I can attest that practice is the only real way to improve mental faculties.

Also I like to joke about the apocalypse and tell people to go to your local library for safety reasons.
# 1 Looters/rioters in this country would never think to rob a library (it's a type of kryptonite so to speak).
# 2 There are plenty of helpful books showing you how to repair all of the infrastructure around us, pipes, electrical, etc. And there are books on farming and almanacs etc, in case we need to restart civilization from scratch.

Having open libraries was one of the only things our civilization did correctly. Without this major feature, it's doubtful we would have ever really got out of the bronze ages.