Clark McClelland on Veritas

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posted on Apr, 30 2013 @ 01:33 PM
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Anyone hear this show? It's very hard to listen to because of the extreme amount of pain this man is going through. Just released on YouTube today.





posted on Apr, 30 2013 @ 01:45 PM
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Theres a tiny problem,Clark mac lelland was never an astronaut

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Apr, 30 2013 @ 01:53 PM
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So, I've just wasted my time... -___-

The psychological explaination for this man would be very complex if what he's saying is false.



posted on Apr, 30 2013 @ 03:26 PM
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This was really a great interview. Thanks for posting.

McClelland's bitterness and disgust with humanity is understandable, although he doesn't seem to take much personal responsibility for contributing to the system himself. He obviously had a hand in the secrecy and deception himself if he was working so closely with the Nazis at NASA for all those years.



posted on Apr, 30 2013 @ 05:46 PM
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Originally posted by antoinemarionette
This was really a great interview. Thanks for posting.

McClelland's bitterness and disgust with humanity is understandable, although he doesn't seem to take much personal responsibility for contributing to the system himself. He obviously had a hand in the secrecy and deception himself if he was working so closely with the Nazis at NASA for all those years.


The guy isn't faking his pain and despair. Whatever our different conclusions, we are all fascinated by the same themes.

Isn't there some way to get him the medical attention he clearly needs?



posted on Apr, 30 2013 @ 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by antoinemarionette
This was really a great interview. Thanks for posting.

McClelland's bitterness and disgust with humanity is understandable, although he doesn't seem to take much personal responsibility for contributing to the system himself. He obviously had a hand in the secrecy and deception himself if he was working so closely with the Nazis at NASA for all those years.


That's not fair. He was sending reports to NICAP in Washington since the early 1960s and they were being released to the news media regularly.

The problem is, he worked for a string of engineering sub-contractors [he was never a NASA GS employee], most with no retirement plans or too-high 'vesting' threshholds, so at age 57 in 1992, when he failed the background check for the shuttle job [also as a contractor, not a NASA employee], he had nothing but his Social Security ten years in the future. And Medicaid.



posted on Apr, 30 2013 @ 10:28 PM
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You can donate on his website to help him.
It's sad to hear someone in so much pain.
Who knows whatever emotional trauma as well by the sounds of it.



posted on Apr, 30 2013 @ 11:26 PM
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His personal life reportedly was full of tragedy, too.

Much of his anguish also appears connected with his inability to convince people that his belief in Nazi Antarctic bases, and New World Order UFO-powered manned craft visiting Mars and Saturn, and in Lucifer and the Nefelim giants ruling Earth on behalf of evil ETs, are the absolute truth. "Nobody believes me!" he lamented. "They're ALL morons." Sad case, indeed.

And no, he never was a NASA scientist, never worked directly for NASA at all, he did honorable service in a series of technician tasks for subcontractors over the years. All the people he claims to have met and had deep friendships with, he probably shook hands with once or twice at receptions, if that. The NASA business card he flashed for years was counterfeit. But those are details we can charitably set aside for the moment.



posted on May, 1 2013 @ 09:31 AM
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Here are some notes I took from the video:



Claims he was 'Technical Assistent to the Apollo Program Manager'. NOTE: But recall he didn't even have a college degree at that point.



"I was an Office of Naval Intelligence officer at Cape Canaveral" -- no record he ever was in the US Navy, much less an officer, much less associated with ONI.



"I was with NASA from 1958 to 1992". So what does the word 'with' mean? He never was a NASA employee, but a lot of his contractor employment did work on NASA-funded projects.



Astronauts: "They told me what they saw out there." No records he ever knew any of the astronauts he lists as "close friends".



"No one will publish my book on the planet Earth."



"I'm in poverty, been that way for 21 years."



"The Earth is a living cosmic life form."



"Cchallenger was sabotaged -- a shaped charge was inserted inside one of the Solid rocket boosters" by "eighteen Libyan spies" hired to work at the Cape.



"Apollo-1 was also sabotaged -- people entered and placed charges inside the cabin to blow it up."


Columbia was attacked by somebody's space weapon, because the Jew astronaut was carrying a secret nuclear spy device.


"There were two attempts to kill me already, they fumbled. I carry a 38 and a 45, they are very heavy."



[26:00] The Germans were evil Nazis.



"The germans were good friends of mine, I went to Kecksburg with a German scientist. It was a Soviet Venus failure"



The probe was a working Nazi-designed 'glock' time machine that NASA needed to copy for its own space designs.



"The New World Order" [Jews] have already stolen the US stolen design. They "have already flown to Mars and back, they have a base on the back side of the Moon. They have flown to Saturn too."



"JFK visited the cape six days before being shot, he came to my pad, I met him and he gave me a secret gift, a presidential patch. I warned him about assassins in Dallas. Oswald was a patsy, a Ruby was a Zionist Jew, it all falls into place."



"I'm 77 years old, I'm very sick, it is horrible pain. The Percussit they give me isn't worth dog s--t."



"This nation is already dead. The sheeple live in a nation of total morons."



"Lucifer owns this planet -- with his black army of Zionist angels, to destroy our race on Earth."



Relates story of when he was in the Navy, in the Philadelphia Navy Yard, and an admiral declined to court martial him for trying to warn the world.



"The media worldwide is owned by Zionist Jews!'" But he is not prejudiced, he once had a Jewish friend named Bernie, and he cried when Bernie died.



"I met Ike at the Pershing [missile] pad [in 1960]. he put his arm around my shoulder, walked with me to the pad, and told me top, top secrets about the missile. But he still was under the command of the "DSSG" -- the "Dictatorial Secret Shadow Government" and the zionist owned and controlled pharmaceutical companies.



"I'm the only one who realizes the truth! They are all idiots!!"



53:30

"I saw the aliens in the space shuttle payload bay. It was waving its hands like ordering the astronauts. I saw it for a minute and seven seconds, then they shut off the TV because they knew I was seeing it." It was 8-9 ft tall, "Thaty's a Nefelim, they still control the planet earth for Lucifer."



57:00

"They're trying to say I never served in the Navy, they even say I never served in NASA!"



"I'm a chief in the Sioux-Lakota tribe, an honorary chief..."



posted on May, 3 2013 @ 04:57 AM
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I in no way suggested he is faking his pain and despair.

I can see that his pain and despair are very real.

Was he or was he not an active participant in Nasa dog and pony show? Did he like and support all those charming Germans running the upper echelons of power?

One should take responsibilities for the decisions taken in one's life --- not simply blame the "morons" and the sheeple for his fate.



posted on May, 3 2013 @ 05:16 AM
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Would love to hear 2nd part aswell. Needs money though...

Why "they" would kill astronauts? I just don't get it....
edit on 3-5-2013 by koperniguz because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 3 2013 @ 08:29 AM
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Originally posted by antoinemarionette
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I in no way suggested he is faking his pain and despair.

I can see that his pain and despair are very real.

Was he or was he not an active participant in Nasa dog and pony show? Did he like and support all those charming Germans running the upper echelons of power?

One should take responsibilities for the decisions taken in one's life --- not simply blame the "morons" and the sheeple for his fate.


That's being unfair to him. He filed secret reports with Keyhoe and NICAP on UFO stories he'd heard, or imagined, since the early 1960s. I suspect he is the origin of the bogus Gordon Cooper Mercury-9 UFO story, for example.



posted on May, 4 2013 @ 08:28 PM
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I guess you're saying that he has been fighting the system all his life while working within it.

OK, I can accept that. Do you have any links to your sources that show this?



posted on May, 4 2013 @ 10:40 PM
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He's had a very Gump-like existence, hasn't he? I've been following his story for a few years now, and can't shake the thought that he's making most of it up. I don't doubt he worked in the space program, I just question how close he got to Eisenhower, the astronauts, and others he says he knows well. He tells a tall tale, doesn't he?



posted on May, 5 2013 @ 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by Caterminator
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He's had a very Gump-like existence, hasn't he? I've been following his story for a few years now, and can't shake the thought that he's making most of it up. I don't doubt he worked in the space program, I just question how close he got to Eisenhower, the astronauts, and others he says he knows well. He tells a tall tale, doesn't he?


Your spider sense guides you well. A number of the stories he claims to have experienced with VIPs, such as von Braun -- I've found the UFO websites and books where he got the original conversations, and he then just inserted himself into the narrative. Everybody gets autographed pictures, even fake names -- sometimes we did that as a prank. His 'NASA SCO business card' is a fake, with his home address on it.

He seems to have been a mechanic-technician [no college degree] on launch pads and other ground support equipment for a string of subcontractors on short term projects -- honorable work and there's no reason to doubt he did his job adequately. There's no record he ever worked directly for NASA, but most people working on NASA projects at KSC were private contractors so he could quibble over definitions -- except NASA was never responsible for his retirement pensions, so would have had no control over paying them or not. Most contractors kept costs low [profits high] by requiring vesting periods of 10 years or so -- but projects rarely lasted more than 5-7 years. Then on to the next employer.



posted on May, 5 2013 @ 10:51 AM
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Originally posted by antoinemarionette
reply to post by JimOberg
 


I guess you're saying that he has been fighting the system all his life while working within it.

OK, I can accept that. Do you have any links to your sources that show this?


He has described sending reports to NICAP, and the stories he's now telling are often the ones that appeared under Keyhoe's name in the 1960s.

The Cooper MA-9 story is bogus, but widely spread from very early on [Frank Edwards was one of the first]. McClelland reports it, but does not claim to have originated it, but its got his style stamped all over it. so that's my guess.



posted on May, 10 2013 @ 10:22 PM
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Thanks Jim. Much like Phil Schneider, he inflates his experience, and inserts himself into real a fake scenarios. I suppose there is no law being broken here when he does this, except maybe fraud. How likely is it someone would pursue him with charges? This is why these tellers of tall tales get away with it. It's not illegal to claim experiences with UFO's, aliens, and related things.



posted on May, 10 2013 @ 11:19 PM
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Originally posted by Caterminator
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Thanks Jim. Much like Phil Schneider, he inflates his experience, and inserts himself into real a fake scenarios. I suppose there is no law being broken here when he does this, except maybe fraud. How likely is it someone would pursue him with charges? This is why these tellers of tall tales get away with it. It's not illegal to claim experiences with UFO's, aliens, and related things.


I have no intention to adding to his woes. But when I asked a friend of mine who specializes in space memorabilia to check out the souvenirs offered for sale on his website, he told me that many of the claimed items for sale were never legally dispositioned by NASA so could not be legally sold, if they were authentic. If he ever did get money for them, it could be mail fraud. Stuff like the claimed autographed photographs, he suggested, were autopenned glossies produced by the thousands for space workers -- claiming they were manually signed would be fraud, as well. So maybe it's lucky all around that nobody has bought anything.





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