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Originally posted by jrmcleod
My son, who is 3 said something odd to me just the other day. My partner and him went to a travel agency to get a brochure for a family holiday to Florida. When i got home from work i was looking at it with him, he was very excited as he wanted to meet Mickey and see Lightning McQueen etc.
I said to him "Do you know how we get there?" He said "How", i said "in a plane". He looked at me and held his thought before saying "why?". I said "because we need to go across the water and we cant drive on water". He again held his thought and said...
"We cant drive there now but people could get there before all the ice melted. People could walk where the water is before the sun came out and melted all the ice".
Now, many of you will think this is normal or nothing important but the very fact that he is putting rising water levels together with ice melt is pretty remarkable, let alone sea levels rising with ice melt, and the notion that there is actually ground under the water.
He is 3 and has no knowledge of this whatsoever!
Originally posted by Malcher
Originally posted by MaMaa
Originally posted by Malcher
There is another thread on here right now that deals with adult experiences, i dont want to link to it but it was on the first page of recent posts. I found these 2 threads very similar, different enough to warrant separate threads so not saying "already been posted" just that my response is the same.
Could these events be the inability to differentiate between dreams where the subject believes they occur during awake but are actually dreams?
As someone who with intermittent sleep paralysis for 20 years it has helped me to understand how the lines between fantasy and reality can become blurred and even or especially if the duration of the event is only seconds long. The shorter the easier it seems to get confused because it is not as involved as a longer, more drawn out event.
It is also good to study false memories or memory repression, not calling these false memories just a way to better understand how over time real and unreal becomes more of a fine line. I read that this plays a part into statutes of limitations being implemented.
this struck a chord with me because I am always aware of when I am dreaming, except for one time. It is always is the same, but sometimes after I get my kids off to school, I go lay back down for an hour or so. I always set my alarm on my phone.. and inevitably I hit snooze over and over. This always changes my dream and in my dreams I am almost 100% sure that I am awake, so much so that I think I can feel and perceive my body movements no different than when I am awake. Then the alarm will go off again after my 10 minute snooze button hit and I wake up for real and the differences between the dream state and my awake state are so minute that I could hardly tell the difference. sometimes i fall right back asleep and am not even aware that I woke up all the way, I suppose I probably didn't fully awake.
This has always led me to wonder how much of our mind perceives dream states as reality. Now the things I have witnessed as being 'creepy' as some might say have rarely been when I was asleep or even near it.. usually in the middle of the day doing my normal routines and such. So while I believe that part of it can be a mis-perception of a dream state, some is just outright creepy/strange/weird/what have you.. I have come to the conclusion that I simply do not know. There is more out there to know and I just don't know it yet. LOL
That is interesting about the alarm clock and provides even more insight. I think you hit on something there vis-a-vis that small window where we are not fully awake nor fully asleep...which is actually very much like what my own experiences and others who are familiar with SP or possible even sleep walking.
I have a detailed response typed up and ready to go which only adds to my first post, but for now i am mainly reading the responses posting actual examples so these examples may sway me.
[–]seethella 1191 points 13 days ago* When my son was little he, maybe 3, he used to do this weird crawl where he would slide his forehead along the floor. That was pretty creepy in itself. Then one night he crawled across the hallway into my room like that and stood up a few inches from my face and made a weird meow sound. He got into bed with me and went to sleep. Another time he was freaking out about a monster in the basement so we went down and saw nothing, of course, and as I turned out the light and headed upstairs and he said "Hes right behind us now." I might have peed a little. Possibly the creepiest thing he did was one day I scolded him for misbehaving so he hid his head under his blanket. I pretended I couldn't find him by saying "Where is my little Carson?" He slowly lowered the blanket and with a dead evil stare said, "Carson is gone, I am Rick." I'm certain he's possessed. We never knew any Ricks, as far I can remember. Still don't. Never figured out where he picked up the name.
Originally posted by JiggyPotamus
Having had paranormal experiences myself, and having heard many stories over the years from family members and people I trust completely, I am convinced these things exist. With that said, when I was younger I saw a person that no one else could see, and I have heard similar things within my own family with other small children. Plus this seems to be reported by people around the world. It is my opinion that children are more "in tune" or apt to see things like this mainly because they have not been told these things do not exist. That is sort of a poor reason, but it may be part of what is going on.
I am convinced however that it has something to do with the brain, obviously. I think that these events show that our brains are somehow connected to some sort of spirit world, or afterlife, and only after we begin to grow up and our brain chemistry changes do we stop seeing these things. Well not all children can see these things, but there are still many adults who can as well. Some people can even turn the ability on and off. And I would be the first person to say that this is just the brain doing something wonky, but this is not the case when it is realized that often times the dead people the children are seeing can be proven to have lived, and often times died tragically. I say tragically because that does seem to often times have some bearing on whether a haunting occurs, although this is not necessarily the case.
Aside from seeing dead people, or spirits, it also seems that children have more of an ability to "feel" things. This can extend to just knowing that something is going to happen to someone, or whatever. What I find the most fascinating about all of these things, aside from the fact that this would prove an afterlife of some kind, is that physics has got a lot of explaining to do, since it cannot explain how people are connected in time and space. Well it does offer an explanation, but this is obviously not correct, otherwise how would these things be possible? How would someone be able to KNOW something is going to happen if the future has not been seen or played out already? It is not possible. There are many who would rather dismiss these claims than attempt to rectify the situation by looking for a solution, and I can understand this to an extent, but seriously these people lack trust in their fellow man.
With all of the accounts given over the years, do these people honestly think every single one of these people are lying or misinterpreting events? If only ONE of those people was telling the truth the skeptic's argument falls apart. Plus there are other phenomena that defy physical explanation. Our sciences really do not understand these things because they do not welcome them. They say they do not exist and do not happen, and then ignore them altogether. I think part of this is because these things are difficult to study, but there are ways it could be done. Science has a bad track record of correcting past mistakes. For instance, I believe our current system of understand quantum mechanics and Newtonian mechanics is wrong. What I mean is that science missed something long ago. The sad part is that there are many people who published contrary ideas to what became the official stance of science, but no one paid any attention to them. So the answers to many of the scientific questions that cannot be directly proven, but only proven mathematically at this point, are likely to be found in decades old papers that were published and then forgotten.
Originally posted by NuclearPaul
Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
Needless to say, I made a point of letting anything icky know it was NOT welcome here, and after that, had NO incidents at all.
Originally posted by Ploutonas
But its a scary experience, I always said.. go away go away... and it stopped (about)....
They DO leave if you tell them to. But most people don't understand this and are too scared and feel too powerless to try it, so they usually end up getting another person to do it for them.
Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
Originally posted by Kody27
reply to post by NuclearPaul
My 4 year old godson talks about his friend "John" all the time. No one in his family or friends knows a John who could have possibly come into contact with him, even though it's a common name, there are no Johns that come around. Plus even if there were, my godson talks about John as if he is only in his room and in his dreams. His mom gave him some paint and a piece of paper and then she started to paint a flower. He started his own painting with several different colors carefully placed around in a pattern. I asked him what he was drawing, he immediately said "A spirit world." I said, "Oh, how do you know what a spirit world looks like?" he said, "John showed me." We all just looked at each other funny and he continued to draw his spirit world.
Any chance of a pic? That is very interesting!
Strange, and more than a little creepy, but interesting.