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"Retarded News" image may cost Sarasota Radio station $6 Million!

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posted on Apr, 28 2013 @ 02:22 PM
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Its wrong. Period.

Lack of human compassion at its fullest.




posted on Apr, 28 2013 @ 02:52 PM
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People, in general, should not be mocked or belittled for financial gain- certainly the courts will help realign these companies professional priorities, but there will never be an accounting for good taste. The fact that the person in question is ?? mentally handicapped?? (sorry, I am unsure of the word that is currently being used in the realm of political correctness), should have little bearing on the case, with exception to the personalness of the attack. We need not limit free speech, not even to the morally defunct, but we should not allow private business to exploit others for financial gain- I hope they pay!



posted on Apr, 28 2013 @ 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by gort51
Has anybody asked the Kid? Oh He is too "you Know" to answer??? What if he Loves the idea he is on a news station?.....retarded means nothing to him, because he doesnt regard himself as retarded.. He may not even think he is different to anyone else. It is only his Parents and other "Experts" who have made a big deal about it, and regard "Retarded" as an insult, that he is probably aware now, that he is Way Way different.


That's where your warped logic completely collapses. If it were only those who were offended who think of him as different, this would not have happened in the first place and his picture would not have been used illegally by that station.

You are claiming that only a few people are offended, and you seem to suggest that the VICTIMS are the ones who are being UNREASONABLE. That image would not have been used if there were not direct intention to point him out as being different and therefore able to be a subject of mocking for others.

I agree with what some others have said in this thread - the complete lack of basic Human decency in a lot of our "youth" is sickening and scary to me. Even here on ATS, people like you can make such statements, and others give you stars for it.

I have, for a long time, been defending media, culture, art and so on, attacking the idea that horror movies and heavy metal destroys basic decency in people - I was a Manson fan and remember Columbine well. But I am really starting to wonder if I've been wrong all these years, and if all of the crap kids are watching and listening to really has created a soulless generation of disturbed young people who have no basic sense of decency and empathy.

You people scare me.



posted on Apr, 28 2013 @ 03:55 PM
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Originally posted by k21968
That is the most stereotypical thing I have read today. Seriously? You must really meet more Americans. MOST of us are not like that.

back on topic, I am AMERICAN and I find using this child in this manner is absurd and horrific.

I would lay my next paycheck that the company that made the graphic was not AMERICAN.
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Since it was me that made the "most Americans" comment, I assume you mean me in this post.

Now I am happy to hear you are not like this. But really, I still allow my statement to stand as my perception of most Americans from the last three generations born to America. I blame the media, I blame bad parents and I blame the pollution of our morals from agenda wielding individuals and organizations.

Again, I am happy you still have "humanity" inside you. But I don't see that often. I see most people laughing at tragedy, pain, using impersonal sex as an entertainment tool, greed, hate and stupidity running amok.

I will give you credit in saying "yes, I am throwing out there a stereotype". But will also say that not all stereotypes are wrong. In fact, many of them are accurate and some of them (the flattering ones) are even accepted by those being stereotyped.

Either way...Americans for the most part are "distracted, chain wearing idiots who rather masturbate to gore and porn than ever have an original thought".

In fact, there are studies showing evidence that our culture is stagnating at an alarming speed, and that we may be in one of the most mentally ill societies to ever exist in recorded history. And that's saying a lot.

Manufacturing consent indeed.

I may be jaded, but you may be blind...we may even both be wrong and the truth lays somewhere in the middle.
But really, even tho we don't agree on Americans. We at least agree that what this radio station did was wrong.

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posted on Apr, 28 2013 @ 09:29 PM
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Originally posted by FraternitasSaturni
So you cant say retarded anymore?

Are people afraid of words or something?

This world is getting weird...


Well now, I want to make sure I'm not mistaken for how I feel on this. I don't suggest banning the word or use. That would suggest laws and legislation and we have FAR FAR too much of that already. There was a time when society in general could recognize wrong when they saw it ...or perhaps just some periods where things shifted long enough to get some things changed in perception anyway.

Sued? Yeah.. They earned that one. Civil Court isn't Criminal Court though and the distinction means everything. You can cuss me out like a Sailor with an attitude ...and in the right setting? I'd have to take it and bite my tongue in all likelihood. In the wrong setting? Well, if I were that type of person...I'd see ya in civil court and pay my bills for awhile on your judgement loss. Such is how the system works to address wrong without passing new laws.

That is what I would like to see happen. A shift in attitudes making the use unacceptable. The same way another poster noted the 'N' word as a racial slur. No laws against it that I know of ...except perhaps the law of self preservation for what another citizen may do in response to being called that, of course. Sadly, the boy in this story wouldn't enjoy the ability to seek redress for damage any way other than what is being done here. I hope it works for them.



posted on Apr, 28 2013 @ 10:07 PM
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Oh ok. Got it.

Now as for the "n" word as you call it, it has different outlines. You see, for the n word, its just a case of who uses it really. If its a white man, its a racial slur and bound to public hanging, if its a black guy its all fine - they refer refer to themselves as the n word - they only get offended when its a white guy calling them the n word. If the same black guy refers to be as cracker hey its all cool... because funny enough I dont care also, and I dont refer to another white guy as cracker.

So I dont consider the N word offensive neither since well... thats what they call themselves. I just dont call them that because well... I'm from europe as you know so its not really on my vocabulary. But I do call them black, and they call me white (we also dont have cracker here) - all the offensive racial stuff are adjectives and some more offensive stuff but always used with the race like connected to white and black like fkn white, whitemth, well you get the picture, so blacks dont treat blacks that way and whites dont treat whites like that. If a racial slur were to be used within the same race only it would defeat the purpose of being a racial slur wont you think? And since only blacks are allowed to used the "n" word with themselves... is it really a racial slur? or is it a racial slur only when whites say it? And why can they say both the n word and cracker and nobody gives a damn? Well anyway...

Comparing the "retard" with the "n" word is apples and oranges rabbit.



posted on Apr, 28 2013 @ 10:21 PM
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Really? You're getting worked up over this? There are far more important issues going on in the world.
Get over it and stop trying to push an agenda that really shouldn't have the need to be addressed. This was a joke and if people can't see the funny side of it and want to sue someone over it then I have no hope for the future. Every little joke someone makes will see them get sued.

This is why I loathe the USA- political correctness, suing people and overweight inbreds.



posted on Apr, 28 2013 @ 10:37 PM
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Comparing the "retard" with the "n" word is apples and oranges rabbit.


Oh, I consider it Apples to Apples myself. As I started my OP on the first line for the thread here ...My own son is special needs. This is personal and personally offensive to an extreme. Very much like a white man walking up to a black man whose minding his own business and in no way provoking anything of any kind and calling him that vile slur.

The fact Blacks use the term with each other reflects on their 'issues', in my opinion, not how wrong the use of the slur is. By definition, it's a hateful term as it's come to be known, at least in the United States. That might be different elsewhere.

Also, contrary to popular culture and myth of movies .... Hearing blacks use that with each other is representative of a very small % in my experience. I have NEVER heard a black person use that word in any professional or workplace setting for instance. I have never heard it used by ANYONE in an academic setting of any kind. The only time I've actually heard it is among "Gangsta Rap" wanna-be's and inner city youth. Now, of course, I don't know how every one of the millions of Black folk in this nation speak, but that has been my direct experience.

Either way, if we want to allow the exception for the slur used in one setting? It's still very much what one calls a "Fighting Word" in this nation and will very quickly start a fight in many places ...perhaps a very terminal one at that. Calling my son, as an example, retarded? Would likely have the same outcome...sans the terminal part. Someone can apologize promptly to my 12 year old boy or I'll probably end up paying their dental bill for the teeth I help them lose in the next moment.

Such is how strongly I'd take that level of verbal assault on a child who can not speak up for himself and would be very strongly impacted by having it said directly........let alone made the butt of jokes and ridicule to a WIDE audience for a commercial ad campaign and cheap stunt.



posted on Apr, 28 2013 @ 11:03 PM
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Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
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Comparing the "retard" with the "n" word is apples and oranges rabbit.


.let alone made the butt of jokes and ridicule to a WIDE audience for a commercial ad campaign and cheap stunt.



Like I said, on this part I totally agree. Thats too much.

As for the rest... well it is the image you sell to the rest of the world, you know that right? I can start with samuel l jackson...



posted on Apr, 28 2013 @ 11:27 PM
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Oh yeah... I'm painfully aware of the image we peddle to the rest of the world. It's sad and really is depressing at times to hear just how badly it's viewed by others outside the U.S..

It wasn't so bad when Baywatch was the leading show people watched (so stats seemed to suggest). We could do worse than having everyone think the US was life on the beach with beautiful girls to come give mouth to mouth if you got in trouble.


On the other hand...about 90% of Hollywood's "product" these days is enough to just sigh deeply over and hope those around the world know actors and actresses gain no special intelligence or expertise in ANYTHING but acting by doing that job. Nor is much of it the least bit representative of real life here. Hard to explain to some folks though ... (Not you.. I know you see past the movie "magic" by talking in other threads)



posted on Apr, 29 2013 @ 01:30 AM
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as the graphic was claimed to be used as an illustration for a segment captioned " worlds dumbest criminals "

why not stick with the meme - and use a pic of a genuine dumbass criminal

err like : mr patrick tribett

the smoking gun website and others of that ilk can be trolled for hundreds of similar images

mr tribett does have human rights - but IMHO he has no protection against being protrayed as a retard

and he is a poster child for " dunb criminals " - plus the pic is funny



posted on Apr, 29 2013 @ 02:44 AM
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I'm not sure where you're getting the 'World's Dumbest' from except my own comparison in the OP as what the show they were advertising sounded similar to by my reading of it.

If we want to follow that though, I would ask if your example uses underage children's images, without permission or attempt to seek legal rights and then misrepresented as being something entirely alien to how it started?

In the subject of the thread, they did use this image as they found it online and then modified it to change the meaning it originally carried to fit their own needs. That actually is an outright legal violation of copyright law and without question as another post mentions. Photographs are copyright property of the photographer upon creation and those rights can never be surrendered. They can be licensed, but they don't go away. In this case, no attempt had ever been made to seek permission, let alone license to use a 3rd party image which clearly was not in the public domain. Further, nothing related to this could fall under the Fair Use exception in even the most liberal interpretation. (IF we want to stick entirely to legalese and the pure definition of the law violated here)

When we add the fact it was, in fact, an underage child depicted in an unusually cruel and vicious way? I can't see how anyone could possibly find the end result amusing on any level. It's disturbing to me personally and professionally to imagine anyone would, with all the above factors combined.



posted on May, 1 2013 @ 11:03 PM
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Bad taste, yes. Do I wanna choke the life outta them? Yeah. Illegal? I dunno. The teacher? Definitely. Lock her up and throw away the key. And then, after a few days, go find the key again, let her out, fine her ass for at least a thousand dollars and then let her deal with civil court. She is responsible for the picture being released onto the internet where it can be taken and used by anyone with little to no repurcussions. The DJs would get a fine at the very most and I don't know about civil court but I'm guessing they would get something. This is where you need a good lawyer. Too bad cause it would be fun to imagine them in jail for a little while. Guys in there will not take too kindly to that. Picking on kids... Pshhh...




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