Yet another video showing inexplicable behavior at Boston Bombing

Originally posted by Kang69
Could be blood powder. Anyone thinking this is water or throwing a towel needs to get their eyes checked. My god people on this form make stupidity a virtue.

First off, before you go lifting the "stupid stick" to swing at people, I highly recommend you watch the HD vid that plainly shows each fold of the blanket opening in slow motion.

It is a towel or sheet.

And you just called the people wise enough to tell you that "stupid".

Sure you wanna be that close to that stick in public?

Have fun, play nice, you are wrong, and those telling you so are not the stupid ones.

Figure the rest out.

If you need help, I can point.

MM

ps-Calling people on this site "stupid" isn't really up to terms with the rules around here. And after seeing a few of your posts on the board...Lets just say I have had to bite my tongue with you a few dozen times.

Have fun. Hugs.

Originally posted by Eterne
Thanks OP for the video
S n F to you

Amputee Mechanical Joint Visible?

Bostongate

edit on 27-4-2013 by Eterne because: (no reason given)

I have stayed away from these threads, and now I see that it was a smart thing to do.

It is not that I don't believe in false flags..I do. But come on. Are we all so convinced that something like this can't happen here that we are willing to loose all common sense in finding 'evidence'? So two crazy guys made some home-made bombs and set them off at a large event (thankfully only two of them detonated)...it's quite amazing it doesn't happen more often. You all do realize this happens on a much grander scale every DAY in Iraq? WHY is it so hard to believe when it happens in America?

I just have to comment on the links in the above post. It's sickening to see people poor over these victims wounds, searching to prove it didn't really happen. You wanna talk about brainwashing and control....look at yourselves then. You are falling right into it. Not HERE. This is all FAKE. No. Those images are REAL. It really DID happen. In the photos claiming to prove they are actors, because the black gal isn't in the other picture, and instead the man with his legs blown of is....oh my gosh, it is so obivous its ridiculous. The black lady obviously MOVED, and the amputee was on the ground BEHIND her. You can see part of his pants/leg sticking out from behind her head, and the stuff on the ground where she is lines up with the stuff after she is gone.

As to the ops video....I don't know for sure what it is, my gut response is that there was a poor little boy blown to pieces, bleeding to death or already dead and he was freaking out. Maybe grabbed some of the celox or syptic powerd (that instantly stops bleeding...used in the field by police,military and other rescue agencies) and was trying to just make the bleeding stop. OR...it could have been any other number of things. We will never know. I really don't see HOW this could possibly indicate that ALL those people were actors just to fool YOU. To suggest that is just so far out there... that I don't see how a reasonable person could contemplate it.

Where the boys controlled by someone to do this? I don't know. Maybe...let's wait for some evidence.

Was the explosion itself staged? Absolutely not. People died, people were maimed and severely injured. How about we stop dragging out their ordeal by trying to legitimize your (all those buying into it) inability to cope with reality?

Same spot, lots of towels on the ground. No sign of a forced dusting.

Plus the video clip of a man with two towels throwing them.

Granted on first viewing it looked a bit like dust. But after watching a couple of times, it's clear - and then I begin to ask myself:

Why question how people react and respond to an emergency, it's sickening. Thanks to the mind-rats working hard around here to dig up a conspiracy - in a future crisis someone won't go so headlong into ground zero to help out because they don't want to go viral on youtube as a menace or part of a conspiracy. And then a life could be lost.

The man threw towels. Don't believe otherwise, don't sit on the fence about it - be mature for god's sake...a little common sense!

reply to post by winofiend


How can I add you to my ignore list, I don't see a button for it, your posts are usually far more meaningless than most on this site.

And I love the attitude that NOTHING is a conspiracy, just because normally crazy people only belong OUTSIDE of the government etc...and the media gets it right most of the time.

We should never look into anything, especially now, because we are all nuts that are looking for ghosts !

He was definitely holding sheets, you can tell by the way they fold over his hands. He was probably yelling something along the lines of, "Here, catch!" It was probably very noisy and chaotic during this scenario. It looks like powder due to a crappy frame rate and video compression. The only reason we are seeing dust is because the creator of the video planted the idea in our minds.

Never

Mind

It's motion blur.

Look, I want to add a few comments.

For people that like to designate how people should "act" in an emergency, I can speak from both sides of the fence.

I work in a hospital. There have been times where I have been confronted with the exact same emergency on multiple occasions, a code blue. Someone is dying. Of course, with every patient, the circumstances are different, however, on most occasions, I am calm - seemingly emotionless - professional. You deal with what is at hand, the emotions come later, trust me.

Sometimes, though, I feel panicky, out of sorts, shocked, surprised, I cry, but I do my job. I have to keep refocusing myself, reminding myself, this is my job, no time for that now. Then later, the Chaplain and I may have a talk, and then when I go home, I have a good cry.

Almost always, it is the circumstances surrounding the code that brings about the different emotional responses. The age of the victim, the who, what, where, when, and why. It NEVER gets easier, you just learn better control and management. This is why drills are important, especially the more realistic ones.

Now, speaking as a victim. I have a condition known as chronic pancreatitis. Severe, horrible, nearly instant onset of the most intense pain you could ever imagine. I would rather give birth than have pancreatic pain.

I have also had acute pancreatitis.

During any attack, the pain is shocking, and so sudden. You go from normal to thinking you are going to die within seconds. Shock sets in almost immediately, because the pain is so bad. Drenching sweats, disorientation from pain, then within a minute or two, I literally succumb to the pain.

I give in, because it is so overwhelming, and every time, I believe I really am going to die. You cannot imagine pain like that.

However, the response is universal. You focus on that pain. Everything in the world ceases the exist as shock settles in. Soon, you have some endorphins come as waves of pain flow over you. You are emotionless as you ride those waves of pain. The seconds of screaming and moaning in agony give way to silence and calm as you lay back and literally prepare for the fact you may not make it through this time.

Every time I hear/read how someone is "emotionless", or not acting "right", the first thing I think is, that person has never, in real life, been on EITHER side of a real emergency, and they instantly lose all credibility in my book.

Who gave you the right to dictate how someone should act in any given scenario, either as the victim or the responder?

The ones that have never been there are the least qualified to speak about it.

The last thing I want to say is, if any one of you has ever suffered a major wound, you would know as well, bleeding is NOT instantaneous. Bleeding, in fact, is often dramatically delayed, and especially with sharp wounds like knife or razor type wounds, the edges of the cut will try to instantly re-seal and you almost have to force deep cuts to bleed at first.

reply to post by Signals

Demonstration of Blood Powder:

So it would require spray bottles of water or misting such if power were strewn around.

Do these people on here dial 911 when they are involved in an accident? Why?

seriously what is wrong with you people?

I don't know if the boston bombings have been conducted by the two brother or other people who just want them to be the suspects... but the bombing were real.

I really clicked the link posted earlier and ask myself how can somebody question a blown of leg? how sick is that. how can you say it is a amputee joint instead of a damn bone sticking out of the rest... damn what is wrong with some of you?

to the video: clearly towels and motion blur and compression artifacts.

reply to post by Mr Mask


Bite your tongue? I don't think I've ever spoke to you in this form. And yes I agree, calling people stupid doesn't help my argument. The best part is you jump to me saying "i'm wrong." So your sure its a sheet then huh? first if it was a sheet, why would he throw it on somebody? Why not just place it on somebody?

Second, it's clearly some type of powder within the sheet. At :49-51 you can clearly see him hold to pieces of sheet and then make a throwing motion, thus releasing the powder. There is no doubt that he does have one piece of cloth in one hand each, and then he releases the two sheets, and that's when you can see the powder being released.

Unless I'm seeing things, it's clearly not a sheet being thrown, it's some type of powder.


Also, if it is a sheet that he is throwing, look at in slow motion at the end of the video, if it is a sheet being thrown, it looks like it's being disintegrated mid air.

I have returned to read all the comments, now for the results of my analysis.



The government has been setting up situations to stoke the fires of conspiracy theorists in efforts to completely discredit the conspiracy community. Obama has done this with his birth certificate, waiting until the last possible moment to humiliate and redicule the birther's. This was a strategy that has been honed through any sort of social networking, be it messengers, personal websites and even MMO videogames.


This has spread to one of the last vestments of safe communications of conspiracy theories and ideas, it has destroyed the validity and authenticity of message boards that you yourself once respected and were eager to be a part of.



If you are awake and have been paying attention, you would be wiser to accept my viewpoint even though it may just be my opinion, it speaks volumes of truth. Everything has been rushed through highly edited media portrayals in order to affect you and the public. That clip was edited and the quality reduced to make this exact effect, it will spread with even lower quality inciting more people to take up the mantle of " nub conspiracy theorist", and these very same people will recite what the unobservant masses will.


The frightening part is that they will defend to the death their viewpoint until they realize there's more than one viewpoint existent in this realm.




If you have children or have been around a lot of people you might be able to read people. You can see that the man throwing the "hospital sheets" looks to have a mixture of anger, sadness, purpose and disgust. His brow is furrowed in desperate concern, concern that he couldn't do anything more for that particular victim and he felt it was a waste of a human life.


That "look" is the look of a human being who has sprung into action, not some cheesy actor or makeup effects specialist.



Remember...some of us are still human.

reply to post by Knives4eyes

The government has been setting up situations to stoke the fires of conspiracy theorists in efforts to completely discredit the conspiracy community.

The conspiracy community have done this to themselves.

They have consistantly come up with the wackiest ideas of how and why things went down. All without one shred of evidence.

You had a lot of people who came in very quickly and in quick succession on page one to 'debunk' with nonsense statements (unfurling a towel. ..?!) plus a healthy dose of ridicule; however, this is quite clearly a 'smoking gun' which PROVES that there was a carefully crafted sequence of stage-managed events in the aftermath of the explosions.

The person who mentioned how the blast victims were coated in beige dust (which added to the effect of a 'warzone' in the overall appearance of the scene. .) seems to be onto the point of note.

The bombs themselves were 'clean' and no masonry was destroyed - so where did all the dust come from? ?

It came from the deliberate 'bag burst' performed by the man in the video, and others like him. Or, he also walked over to the second blast site and burst a second bag.


The whole thing stinks. Rotten as Hell.

PS - it is NOT a hospital sheet - you can see the particulate and the spread tangentials of the trajectory of various clusters of the particulate.

Saying it's a hospital sheet is intellectually disingenuous at best, and outright despicable lies to suit an agenda at worst. Lying to fit in with the crowd is still lying.

Originally posted by stars15k

Originally posted by Char-Lee
reply to post by Credenceskynyrd

 

Probably not if he was a crisis actor. The odd thing to me is the guy did not start screaming MY LEGS! My LEGS! THEY ARE GONE!!
When someone loses a body part it is a pretty traumatic thing and yet he seems calm throughout from the first to the pushing him away, as he is wheeled along he looks around him calmly.

You have obviously not had any experience with this type of maiming. It's a traumatic amputation. There can be little to no blood, little to no pain, and a strange sense of calm reason. I have seen it happen, as we happened onto a motorcycle vs. car accident. The biker had his leg torn off, and it was still in his boot, several feet away. He was removing his belt to apply a tourniquet before he started to bleed, and calmly asked for his boot and leg moved closer.
He knew what had happened, he was not bleeding, he was calm, he was not in any pain.
Just like the guy here.
You and all the others ignorantly making this claim are wrong.

The initial realization of losing both limbs has to happen, the situation continues for quite some time as it goes on and there is footage of him being wheeled away.

The amount of time shows no change in demeanor and he does not look in shock, which I have seen in several accident incidents one of which eventually died at site as the ambulance failed to arrive for 45 mins.

reply to post by Kang69


Yes bite my tongue at some of your replies and misuse of logic (in my opinion). But that aside.

Yes, I can clearly see there is no dust left in that area after the event (there are pictures of that very area).

Yes I can tell you the HD vid shows clearly this is not dust and shows the folds of the blanket/towel/cloth unfolding and moving down.

Why is a man throwing a towel? I don't exactly know, but it seems like a good thing to do if someone is bleeding to death, or maybe there is an 8 year old boy dead on the scene.

I can come up with half a dozen reasons why anyone would throw a towel.

Can you come up with one plausible/logical/non-crazy reason to say "this guy threw dust on dying or dead people"? Think about that question...and please answer it honestly if you can.

And again, watch the HD vid and just see that its a blanket or towel. Cus its very clear.

Hugs.

ps-and yes, calling people stupid when you are wrong and they are right, is pretty bad for your argument. You can clearly see it is a blanket or towel. No argument needed. No other explanation needed. In HD it is easy to see. Now try and ask yourself why you can't see that and you are holding onto the story of "a man is throwing dust on wounded or dead folks, and nobody is freaking out about it"

pss-No...we have never spoken directly, nor have I posted to you directly before this thread. I am an old member here who has lurked for the last two-three years and only have returned to post cus of the Boston Bombing.

But...that's not important. You calling people who are telling you the truth "stupid" is what is important here.

MM

Originally posted by Xtrozero
Think most of us agree it is motion blur, but I fail to see a post saying that what is in his left hand is clearly a folder towel or sheet and not a bag of any kind, so that kind of tells us he most likely has the same thing in the other hand since he brings both hands together before he throws.

So he is either throwing towels or sheets from both hands, or he is throwing in one hand towels or sheets and dust of some kind from the other hand which would make zero sense anyway you looked at it.

edit on 28-4-2013 by Xtrozero because: (no reason given)

It would be interesting if someone could fill a bag with dust and reenact and video it.

This is an enactment here not real, just wanted to point out that only the actors sometimes know it is not real, look at the facial expressions of the crowd and they were notified it was not real but a drill.

They make it real by their response and fear, if it were not real (boston) and they had made it look like limbs lost and gore, and yelling there may be more bombs, the crowd itself would make it real enough in fear and panic and minor injuries they cause and the actual for show blast caused from glass and objects.

I couldnt' see anything in the video or the pics. i don't know what I'm looking at, but I couldn't see anyone throwing dust or anything. Can anyone point it out to me. I see a small what could be anything in the background of the one pic. It could be dust, smoke, a towl. I can't tell.

It would be nice if we could discuss this without insulting each other directly. it just adds "text blur" to the issue.