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Originally posted by seeker1963
Did you watch the video of the people coming out of their houses with their hands over their heads with guns pointed at them???
Yes, you are correct that I most certainly would protect myself from ANY law enforcement officer OR military personnel whom would violate the Constitution that they took an "OATH" to uphold (as did I) to protect myself!!!!
So if you are a US citizen, then why are you acting so ignorant as to the words of our Constitution????? Or our you one of these "Progressives" whom actually believe in this so called "New World Order"????
I would say "Nice try though" as you did, but I would prefer for you to keep showing your ignorance as to the words of our "Founding Fathers"! Because obviously, you are so scared of the boogie man terrorists, that you are willing to give up what freedoms you have left!
reply to post by captaintyinknots
I have refused a police search before, and guess what? They didnt illegally search me.
Originally posted by MidnightTide
reply to post by captaintyinknots
So what do you think would have happened if you said no to the search in Boston, do you think that would have been an acceptable answer.
Originally posted by FissionSurplus
reply to post by captaintyinknots
I have refused a police search before, and guess what? They didnt illegally search me.
There's a world of difference between ordinary LEOs requesting a search, and this particular scenario, in which all the military gear was dragged out and used. Apples and oranges.
I know you feel very passionately about matters and I can respect that 100%. At the same time. what you're advocating here is Capital Murder 6x's over as an example. I don't hear you saying you'd envision a scenario of RETURNING fire to a tragedy started by overzealous law enforcement ..but that you'd deliberately open the killing and with forward thinking and planning before they came to your home.
AS I noted, the Federal Medical Center for Prisons isn't that far from me (and we'll leave it at that for detail ) so this is absolutely not 100% theory for me. The Compound wall that was blown out at the Benghazi, Libya consulate ..well BEFORE Stevens was murdered in the final attack ...was done by a group demanding the release of the Blind Sheikh who helped plan and encourage the 1993 bombing attack against the World Trade Center.
That man has been, at different times, housed at that medical center I've driven right past, countless times. It's not impossible that his die hard supporters could be more ....direct... someday. (It's located right INSIDE the city...not some distant and remote spot like most prisons are)
I won't be murdering police officers who are chasing the terrorist scumbags that might have initiated an attack to spring the Super-Terrorists from his medical suite
Originally posted by MidnightTide
and as you are well aware, the cops never did find him, a citizen did.edit on 27-4-2013 by MidnightTide because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by MidnightTide
reply to post by captaintyinknots
The Fourth Amendment states that authorities must have “probable cause” before searching “persons, houses, papers, and effects.” As in, they or another witness saw the suspect run into a house, or they had good intelligence that suspect was hiding in a specific location.
They had no clue where he was, they took an area within a 20-blocks and were going to search them.
Originally posted by MidnightTide
reply to post by captaintyinknots
So what do you think would have happened if you said no to the search in Boston, do you think that would have been an acceptable answer.
Originally posted by MidnightTide
reply to post by captaintyinknots
reply to post by captaintyinknots
I see your just going to dance around the issue. Martial law per say wasn't declared, no military was used. Though the police pretty much was militarized. No one is going to press charges, you would be vilified by mass media by doing so.
Originally posted by MidnightTide
reply to post by captaintyinknots
Again, militarized police at you door, assault rifles aimed in your direction.
"Sure guys, come on in" you stutter as you drop a loaf in your pants. Permission - Intimidation.....what is the difference.
Again, militarized police at you door, assault rifles aimed in your direction.
"Sure guys, come on in" you stutter as you drop a loaf in your pants. Permission - Intimidation.....what is the difference.
Originally posted by muse7
What disturbing path is that?
Advising people not to go outside because there is a terrorist on the run willing to do anything to escape?
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Here's a question for those that have a huge issue with this pic:
What would you do if the shoe was on the other foot?
You are part of a tactical team tasked with catching someone who is willing to kill a lot of people. You are clearing a street. Suddenly, you see the curtain on a window pull back. You see a shadow of a figure through it. That figure raises something to eye level, pointed right at you.
Would you assume "oh, its just some guy taking a picture", or would you think "it is possible this is the suspect. I need to have him in my sights until I know it is safe".
I mean really. Lets think for a second people.
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by gladtobehere
reply to post by Danbones
Pssht, you cant even refuse entry into your own home...
Yes, yes you can. If they have no warrant, you have every right to refuse.