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Originally posted by wirefly
No. They shouldn't even be on the street to begin with. So, your point is invalid to begin with.
Originally posted by inverslyproportional
Originally posted by Bone75
Originally posted by ivbnu
reply to post by Bone75
Why does everyone act like there was bombs going off everywhere? After the first kid was killed there was no more round fired or bombs set off. Granted they were unaware of wether he was armed or not but it didn't seem to be anymore dangerous than oh say down town chicago where the police don't want to go anymore not that I blame them.
If it were my 8 year old child that had been killed in that explosion, I wouldn't care if the Army tore that whole f***ing city down looking for the son of a bitch that did it. My guess is...
You wouldn't either
Which is why the law is in place, so that personal feelings and emotion dont lead to oppression and brutality.
Of course you wouldnt care, neither would I, hell I would even help, but that wouldnt make me right, any more than it made what happened right.
This is the rule of law, not the rule of emotional reactions.
Emotion has no place in law, it is whats best for everyone, not what a greiving victim wants.
Problem is, its not just about *you*. Its about the good of the community, the society, and the union.
Originally posted by ivbnu
reply to post by captaintyinknots
I object to the police deciding what is "dangerous" to me. I guess I just don't scare easily. Unless its an scared -snip- cop pointing a automatic rifle at me. They owe nothing to me why should I owe them?
Originally posted by inverslyproportional
Originally posted by Bone75
Originally posted by ivbnu
reply to post by Bone75
Why does everyone act like there was bombs going off everywhere? After the first kid was killed there was no more round fired or bombs set off. Granted they were unaware of wether he was armed or not but it didn't seem to be anymore dangerous than oh say down town chicago where the police don't want to go anymore not that I blame them.
If it were my 8 year old child that had been killed in that explosion, I wouldn't care if the Army tore that whole f***ing city down looking for the son of a bitch that did it. My guess is...
You wouldn't either
Which is why the law is in place, so that personal feelings and emotion dont lead to oppression and brutality.
Of course you wouldnt care, neither would I, hell I would even help, but that wouldnt make me right, any more than it made what happened right.
This is the rule of law, not the rule of emotional reactions.
Emotion has no place in law, it is whats best for everyone, not what a greiving victim wants.
Originally posted by ivbnu
reply to post by captaintyinknots
Okay the police are not beholden to the community. The supreme court has ruled that a Leo is under no obligation to protect the community.
Police have no legal duty to respond and prevent crime or protect the victim. There have BEEN OVER 10 various supreme and state court cases the individual has never won. Notably, the Supreme Court STATED about the responsibility of police for the security of your family and loved ones is "You, and only you, are responsible for your security and the security of your family and loved ones. That was the essence of a U.S. Supreme Court decision in the early 1980's when they ruled that the police do not have a duty to protect you as an individual, but to protect society as a whole."
Originally posted by ivbnu
So where do we place this one? Over the past 12 years there have been 24 "Terrorist" plots thwarted 21 of which the fbi was directly involved. Do we start a catagory of "just missed it". If they can't catch two amatures they are useless and in fact a danger to safety.
Originally posted by fairguy
Originally posted by g146541
Originally posted by muse7
What disturbing path is that?
Advising people not to go outside because there is a terrorist on the run willing to do anything to escape?
More than one terrorist, I hear there were several thousand out there.
You could tell them by their uniforms and patches and military weaponry.
You know, the stuff that good law abiding citizens cannot get their hands on...
If the citizens are so law abiding, then why would they want to get their hands on any of that stuff in the first place?
This is real life, this is not Die Hard 2...
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
reply to post by Covertblack
Originally posted by Covertblack
They rolled out tanks?
It amazes me that I'm arguing with people who don't know the difference between an armored vehicle and a freaking TANK!
Your country is dividing into those that support and deny this and those that can't quite believe it is happening to them.
Those that support it are just as much responsible for it through their blind adherence to the Corrupt State.
Link below is graphic, that puts together a very interesting aspect of this event and some hidden knowledge.
www.thetruthseeker.co.uk...
This isn't standard procedure in our country. This is something thy are trying to introduce and get us used to. I don't want to live in a society where this is normal.
Originally posted by ivbnu
reply to post by captaintyinknots
Whos society. This isn't standard procedure in our country. This is something thy are trying to introduce and get us used to. I don't want to live in a society where this is normal.
And don't say " if you don't like leave" cause its not like i'm rejecting something "normal". Military police on the streets no matter how scared YOU are isn't benificial to a free society.