It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

The great surveillance boom

page: 1
7

log in

join
share:

posted on Apr, 27 2013 @ 01:49 PM
link   

Video surveillance is already big business. In the aftermath of the Boston Marathon bombings, expect it to get even bigger.




FORTUNE -- Video surveillance is big business. Expect it to get bigger. After law enforcement used closed-circuit television (CCTV) cameras to help identify last week's Boston bombing suspects, lawmakers and surveillance advocates renewed calls for increased numbers of cameras nationwide.


management.fortune.cnn.com...

Rep Peter King:


"So yes, I do favor more cameras," said King, who sits on the U.S. House Homeland Security and Intelligence committees and has also called for increased monitoring of Muslim Americans. "They're a great law enforcement method and device. And again, it keeps us ahead of the terrorists, who are constantly trying to kill us."


Yo King?

Screw all good those cameras did to prevent the bombing, they "identified" two suspect's AFTER THE FACT.

Big Brother wants to get even more bigger, and that means a whole lot more than a camera's everywhere you go.


The U.S. is no stranger to this dilemma. In response to security concerns after 9/11, Americans witnessed the growth of a massive domestic security apparatus, fueled by federal largesse. According to Tomdispatch's Mattea Kramer and Chris Heilman, post-9/11 federal spending on homeland security exceeds $790 billion.The U.S. is no stranger to this dilemma. In response to security concerns after 9/11, Americans witnessed the growth of a massive domestic security apparatus, fueled by federal largesse. According to Tomdispatch's Mattea Kramer and Chris Heilman, post-9/11 federal spending on homeland security exceeds $790 billion. That's larger than TARP and, when adjusted for inflation, the New Deal.


That's a lot of cheddar $790 billion, and they couldn't stop the Boston Bombers even though they were on terrorist watch lists.

How about putting cameras, on DHS to make sure they are not downloading things off the net they are not suppose to.

I have no doubt that Boston will be as an excuse to expand funding for homeland insecurity by 2016 we will probably see 1 trillion dollars.

We we warned- ORWELL!

When will that masses wake up, and start smelling what is being shoveled?

Plenty of eyes. What about brains?

edit on 27-4-2013 by neo96 because: (no reason given)




posted on Apr, 27 2013 @ 02:06 PM
link   
reply to post by neo96
 


Hi neo96,

I have been thinking a lot about this lately as I have been looking in to different "security" (surveillance) systems involving wireless I.P. cameras and Zoneminder.

I was listening to a guy on the radio the other day, and he was taking calls. A guy called in, just some regular dude, and he was talking about his camera system, he went to say 'surveillance' and stopped himself short and said 'security'.

I don't think that he should have been shy about it; this technology delivers nearly 'witchcraft' like powers; everyone has been dying to spy on each other.

And that's what 'they' are really counting on, that we will be so busy surveilling each other that we will forget about them surveilling us.

Have you noticed the popular shows lately? Revenge, House of Cards; all feature nearly impossible digital technology that allows regular folks, who seemingly have some tech knowledge and the cash, to easily surveill one another with great efficiency. At least the tech seems nearly impossible, until you find the adds for the battery-operated wireless I.P. "security" cameras; not to mention the easily had GPS trackers for cars and humans that use a web interface.

It's like we've been hit so hard in the digital gibblets that we have been knocked back to Salem.

People just have to decide if they are up for that or not.



When will that masses wake up, and start smelling what is being shoveled?


They're not. Right now they are thinking about how they can do it back, and to each other, and how they can do it on a budget with an old lap-top and a sale at Fry's.

And we do it all by ourselves, there's no 'push' from anywhere; when given the two choices, "stop the madness" versus "Where can I get one?!. People go straight for "where can I get one".

Usually the madness does not stop till some fingers get burnt off and someone loses an eye.




edit on 27-4-2013 by Bybyots because: that's what I think *shrug*



posted on Apr, 27 2013 @ 02:12 PM
link   
reply to post by neo96
 





"So yes, I do favor more cameras," said King, who sits on the U.S. House Homeland Security and Intelligence committees and has also called for increased monitoring of Muslim Americans. "They're a great law enforcement method and device. And again, it keeps us ahead of the terrorists, who are constantly trying to kill us.


Well, no it doesn't keep you ahead of the terrorists? Does having cameras suddenly determine who is a terrorist and who isn't?

They were only useful after the fact. Cameras didn't prevent bombs being planted. This guy probably has shares in a company who make the cameras...



posted on Apr, 27 2013 @ 02:17 PM
link   
reply to post by neo96
 


If they even mention the word "drones" I honestly believe my little fluffy head will friggin' explode.



posted on Apr, 27 2013 @ 02:20 PM
link   

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by neo96
 


If they even mention the word "drones" I honestly believe my little fluffy head will friggin' explode.


Boston Police Ed Davis Want Drones For Next Marathon

www.huffingtonpost.com...

Don't read this then.



posted on Apr, 27 2013 @ 03:12 PM
link   
Nazi Germany and again Germany during the Cold War was all about overwhelming surveillance, spying on your own people, persecution for attending special interest groups. Look what it did for them. Look what it is doing for the people of North Korea today. Look at what it will do for us. Wonderful!!!



posted on Apr, 27 2013 @ 03:25 PM
link   
reply to post by neo96
 
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

The whole push is to get this camera system linked into the facial recognition software that attaches to the DMV/Passport databases. They can then track you in real time from any camera that gets a frontal facial image. In essence what we are heading for is checkpoints that “check your papers” at every intersection and government facility, without the public’s knowledge. If they “flag” your database entry, they can track everywhere you go that crosses one of these cameras.

Its the WORST invasion of our rights to ever occur, yet very few seem to know about it, and even fewer still seem to care. I have to wonder how upset people would be if you actually had military checkpoints everywhere, and you had to present your “papers”. Yet this does the same thing without having to spend the money on manpower, and without the public’s inconvenience.

This is happening world-wide, by the way, almost all countries now require some form of “national ID” with “biometrics” the most common being “facial recognition”. The US has implemented it through the Real ID Act, and even states that passed laws banning the Real ID are still complying with the “benchmarks”. The FBI just spend $3 billion on these systems, and states like Florida have already implemented them.

This thing is the dream of all police states, and people better start paying attention to whats quietly going on with it.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



edit on 4/27/2013 by defcon5 because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 27 2013 @ 07:47 PM
link   
Yup, everybody is going to wine and moan that it has happened and that they have no more freedoms, but nobody is lifting a finger to do anything about it.



posted on Apr, 28 2013 @ 02:46 PM
link   
reply to post by neo96
 


And I thought this was another bad movie starring Tom Cruise........




posted on Apr, 28 2013 @ 02:59 PM
link   

Originally posted by sonnny1
reply to post by neo96
 


And I thought this was another bad movie starring Tom Cruise........



Yeah Minority Report or Enemy of the State wish it was possible to "eject the dvd".



posted on Apr, 28 2013 @ 05:28 PM
link   
reply to post by neo96
 


Problem is this. Surveillance isn't stopping tragedies from happening. Also, the big brother policies are going to be used against us eventually. Only an idiot would think otherwise.



posted on Apr, 28 2013 @ 06:12 PM
link   

Originally posted by neo96
Yeah Minority Report or Enemy of the State wish it was possible to "eject the dvd".

We already have a system to that effect as well:
Behavior Recognition Systems
Tampa has had these installed since the RNC.
These can also be hooked into facial recognition.
So in essence you can now be arrested because a computer “thinks” you might commit a crime.



posted on Apr, 28 2013 @ 06:19 PM
link   
reply to post by defcon5
 


It is a reality. You are absolutely right.

Sad.




A British research group has developed software that can predict, within 20 meters, where you will be 24 hours from now.

It’s actually surprisingly easy to predict your general, routine movements — home, car, office, lunch, car, home — but it has always been nigh impossible to predict breaks in routine, such as a trip to the cinema or a holiday abroad.

The researchers, Mirco Musolesi, Manlio Domenico, and Antonio Lima of the University of Birmingham, cracked this problem by factoring in the location of your friends and your social interactions with those friends (phone calls, meet-ups, etc.) By simply analyzing how many calls you make to a friend, and by correlating your movement patterns, the researchers can predict your movements over the next 24 hours — even if you deviate dramatically from routine.


Precrime creeps closer to reality, with predictive smartphone location tracking



posted on Apr, 28 2013 @ 06:19 PM
link   
reply to post by defcon5
 





So in essence you can now be arrested because a computer “thinks” you might commit a crime.


We have had that for quite sometime already sort of that is what background checks and the "gun" debate is all about.

Most people will see "Terrorism" and "guns" as entirely different issues, but they are one in the same.

Only a matter of time before everything is "connected".



new topics

top topics



 
7

log in

join