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Originally posted by MuzzleBreak
reply to post by dontreally
Once again, thanks to OP and all the posters for a wonderful thread.
Regarding the Hebrew bible/Torah/Tanakh---which people are the Israelites of today? Schlomo Sand and Arthur Koestler would argue that they are definitely not the Ashkenazi Jews of modern day Israel.
The Jews of the New Testament---were they primarily Judahites--or had 100 years of non-Israelite control by the "converted" Herodian Edomites (including the murder of the majority of the Sanhedrin in 37BC by Herod) changed the 'Jews" from primarily Judahite origin to primarily Idumaean (Edomite) origin? Do you think that they were the ones spoken of in Revelations as "Those who call themselves Jews, but are not, but are of the synagogue of Satan."?
Originally posted by studythem1
the problem with the psychology of the religion starts from the very beginning...we find that through examination of other texts contemporary or predating genesis that there are things not mentioned, and even that the text was redacted to better fit the politics and ideology that judaism finally became...and this was to make it appear to be one continuous work, but they were pretty sloppy at it, but this is not really a psychological issue...
the psychological issue starts in the portrayal of god...immediately after giving a summary of the origin of man, god is portrayed as a very mean spirited individual...who dislikes free will, and dislikes the truth, and punishes man almost immediately for trying to discover the truth...so adam and eve were trying to expose conspiracy, and this is immediately vilified...
they probably more than likely remade him into the same sacrifice to molech, a god they publicly detested but still secretly worship in their secret society, which has made its way all the way from israel to the bohemian grove...
That is all great, but it is actually up to me if I feel something is a waste of time...Its my opinion, so how could it not be up to me?
One question, so you feel their are multi Gods?
The OP is suggesting the Christian God is evil and his is not, so does that mean there are many?
I think my main point is Religion has always had some kind or moral path attached to it and when religion has gone wacko in the past there has always been a moral compass to correct back to, but in situations without religion there tends to be no moral compass to get back on track once a society has drifted off and it just gets really really bad.
I don't know. I think it's quite possible that people have seen or witnessed things they can't explain. To try to decide what those things "are" is beyond our ability at this time.
Evil Spirits seem to exist--both in non-corporeal from and in corporeal form--from the experience of many witnesses;; Do you think these are usually figments of imaginations--or actual entities.
Many times these entities seem to be repelled by the name of Jesus--what are your thoughts?
Do guardian angels/spirits exist?
Is there an external group mind composed of the departed that is concerned with the welfare of their descendants?
No. I feel that whatever happened to get us here is impossible to "know" or "understand," and it's certainly NOT a human busybody sitting in the sky judging everyone, jealous, and has a torture-chamber ready for those who step on it's toes.
Because you dont pay attention to what is really happening you dont know what is going on.
and I know what religion is "up to" in this country.
1. You need experience without experience all you are doing is relying on the words of other people without any foundation to start your *hunt* for knowledge.
2. New souls are always trying to figure out the mysteries of the passed and the inner workings of the universe. Trying to tell people a bunch of hyper philophical points that excede reality and are realms of fiction and the mind. Not really based on any cosmic spiritual experiences with god and the 5 elements.
I find it hard to follow along what they are saying with people like that. The reason why i sound so far fetched is because i am nailing the nail on the head. And all those still trapped in the realms of fiction and mind are unable to see passed their conjured realities. Into the real and ultimate reality.
the elite created religion to control the masses, and yes even the judeo/christian/muslim ones...so there is nothing we can save from them in order to retain the "correctness" that may still be in them...that is a drug making excuses as to why you need it still