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Originally posted by FyreByrd
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by FyreByrd
So just get rid of Republicans and Libertarians and all your problems will be solved, workers will have wonderful conditions, everyone will have Utopia, shorter hours, longer vacations, bigger pay, happy times....there will never be any accidents, the workers will all care about the job they are doing, everything will be built better because Democrats and liberals are so superior.
You're dreamin buddyedit on 28-4-2013 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)
That is not what I said at all. Do you know the classical definition of 'Liberal'? A liberal believes in a society/system/world were every idea, goal and belief can contribute to social success. What a liberal seeks to avoid is a society that is dominated by any one ideology. A liberal believes that the only lasting and, yes, progressive change has to use many ideas in concert to the public (not private) good.
Again, if you are going to defend Republican and Libertarian behavior, please do so on merits. If you are going demean anothers view do it on a factual basis. Please don't say "Your wrong because I'm right" - it's really a stupid and childish reaction to ideas you don't like.
Classical liberalism is a political philosophy and ideology that emerged as a response to the Industrial Revolution and urbanization in the 19th century in Europe and the United States. It shares a number of beliefs with other belief systems belonging to liberalism, advocating civil liberties and political freedom, limited government, rule of law, and belief in free market. Classical liberalism is built on ideas that had already arisen by the end of the 18th century, such as selected ideas of Adam Smith, John Locke, Jean-Baptiste Say, Thomas Malthus, and David Ricardo, stressing the belief in free market and natural law, utilitarianism, and progress. Classical liberals were more suspicious than conservatives of all but the most minimal government and, adopting Thomas Hobbes's theory of government, they believed government had been created by individuals to protect themselves from one another.
Originally posted by GrantedBail
Those bastages are going to burn in hell. I can't believe that people don't stand up and take notice. The erosion of manufacturing in the US has led to so many horrors for the third world.
Recently I watched that Jon Pilger documentary on the abuses of factory workers in Indonesia. So heartbreaking. Why oh why do we, occupiers of this earth, not stand up and revolt.
They'd rather borrow $100 billion and pay the interest than bring $100 billion in profits into the USA and have it taxed.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Yes, I do happen to know what classical liberal means, and today's liberals aren't it! But instead of dealing with the nutty Utopian socialist nanny statism being heaped on us by today's Progressives, you attack Republicans and Libertarians as being the problem.
Another prime example of externalizing costs by BIG BUSINESS is the fire and explosion in Texas last week, That situation is also an example of Republican & Libertarian "Government is the Problem" thinking where in they don't believe in governance and so 'starve' the system so it can't work. There was no oversite of the plant, no inspections, nothing because of endless republican tax cuts (for the wealthy - not you and me) where there is no money in the budget to do anything for anyone. WE THE PEOPLE can no longer absorb the business communities COST OF DOING BUSINESS.
Garment Factory collapse highlights dark side of Capitalism
Probably the most difficult task in this work will be to get across to the reader what is really an elementary observation: that the objective of The Order is neither "left" nor "right." "Left" and "right" are artificial devicces to bring about change, and the extremes of political left and political right are vital elements in a process of controlled change.
The answer to this seeming political puzzle lies in Hegelian logic. Remember that both Marx and Hitler, the extremes of "left" and "right" presented as textbook enemies, evolved out of the same philosophical system: Hegelianism. That brings screams of intellectual anguish from Marxists and Nazis, but is well known to any student of political systems.
In the Hegelian system conflict is essential. Furthermore, for Hegel and systems based on Hegel, the State is absolute. The State requires complete obedience from the individual citizen. An individual does not exist for himself in these so-called organic systems but only to perform a role in the operation of the State...
(SAVAR, Bangladesh) — The fugitive owner of an illegally-constructed building that collapsed in Bangladesh in a deadly heap last week was captured Sunday at a border crossing with India by members of a commando force.
Mohammed Sohel Rana was arrested near the land border in Benapole in western Bangladesh, just as he was about to flee into India’s West Bengal state, said Jahangir Kabir Nanak, junior minister for local government. Rana was brought back by helicopter to the capital Dhaka where he faced charges of negligence.
The substandard construction methods that are suspected of triggering the deadly collapse of an eight-story building in Bangladesh on Wednesday are a common problem in developing countries, where construction materials can be expensive and building inspections infrequent, experts say.
But in developing countries, less steel is often used than is recommended because of the cost.