reply to post by beezzer
Legal immigration should remain the same. Illegal immigration should be dealt with. Grant a type of amnesty but limit the rights allowed by
punishing those who came here illegally with a denial to 1)vote, 2)own a firearm, 3)any other punitive measures reserved towards ex-felons.
So you’re saying that you would grant amnesty right now for those who the government would grant it to? All others are rejected, period? Do you
believe that those who wouldn’t qualify should be arrested and deported then? And you do realize that those illegals who stay (legally or not) will
keep demanding more and more, as they have been. If they are given any form of amnesty they will demand full rights. If they have to pay taxes, they
will be outraged not to receive full rights.
Legal, punitive measures should be taken if someone breaks the law. Granting a form of amnesty would be the only allowance I would assume,
anything else gets punished.
I think that, as citizens found out that their ID’s were stolen, or children’s ID’s, there will be a lot of outrage at the lack of justice. God
knows what’s been done in some citizens’ names. But this says that breaking the law is OK sometimes.
They are here now, in our communities now. I would like to think that most don't break the law on a continued basis.
I’m sure you would, but it’s no different than letting a bunch of criminals out of prison and saying: “we’re giving you all a second chance
and we hope you won’t continue to break the law.” Also, you talk about them as if they’re part of the community. Many of them refuse to speak
much English and expect English-speaking citizens to learn to speak Spanish. They demand more and more for themselves, when they deserve nothing, as
they are criminals. They pocket money and return home with their earnings (as American money is worth more.) I’m sorry but it seems to me that your
view on the subject is rather idealized.
Anyone who breaks the law (after amnesty) should be punished. All previous laws should be followed.
Basically it’s the "we all just forget the whole thing like it never happened and move happily on" sort of deal. I fail to see how these illegals
will learn to respect the law after being rewarded for breaking it. Also, how do you intend to stop continued illegal immigration? The Obama
Administration keeps supporting them and pushing for them to be protected from laws which American citizens are bound to. I would also think that
rewarding some amnesty and then slamming the law down on the rest would create a lot of anger from those who do not make it. Those who receive amnesty
will fight on and on for all their friends and relatives to receive it as well.
Legal immigrants gets all rights afforded to them.
Illegal immigrants get limited rights, the same as anyone who was released from prison after committing a crime.
This responds only to the legal immigrants who have been allowed into the U.S., not to those who have been waiting for years to get into
U.S. lawfully while they see so many thousands (millions, actually) breaking into the U.S., stealing citizens’ ID’s, breaking all the rules and
are then rewarded for this behavior. It would only invite more of the same treatment of American laws. It is the same logic for why a leadership
should never give into terrorist demands (because once you do, more will come.) Decisions carry messages with them. A good leader makes the tough
Illegal Immigrants may have ‘limited rights’ in some respects, but they also get free medical, free legal representation if they need it, they do
not pay taxes and they can break the law so long as it not with violence crimes. It is basically like allowing the Wild Wild West into modern day
America. I see no logic in this at all.
If thousands or millions of illegals are given amnesty, what of all the homeless Americans and struggling working class families who are falling into
poverty? I can look and look at the situation in the U.S. and I am not seeing where these jobs will come from or how any of this could possibly work.
I think that big corporate interests rule supreme these days and lobbyists slant political views, as mainstream media does to the people, so that
everyone feels that it is good
to be pro-illegal and bad
to be anti-illegal, when the facts actually paint the opposite picture. There
is right and wrong and I am amazed at how many people will choose the popular view of ‘good’ over what is actually right. Breaking the law and
demanding for one’s self as much as one can get for one’s self to the detriment of law-abiding citizens who are struggling to survive is not
. The law would agree with me.
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