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Originally posted by jmdewey60
I just concluded that the 'serpent' in the Eden story of Genesis represents all 'false' gods.
"False" in having no proper support as being an authority.
"True" being a term properly (according to the priests of that particular god, who were writing it) applied to the Yahweh character based on his making the garden.
Making the garden then (according to this priestly philosophy) gives the maker, Yahweh, the right to be the supreme authority within its boundaries.
The serpent, like the tree of knowledge, are things that are just there, not being made by that particular deity, Yahweh, but by the shadowy entities, the Elohim.
The collective of the residual spiritual entities of the world itself is represented by the person of the serpentine, clever, and articulate master of nonauthoritative rhetoric.
They have no authority because they didn't really make anything, but are somehow residents of the earth, and are integral with it, so can never be just removed, but have to be crushed down to their proper status, which is not the lofty and heavenly status of Yahweh.
Maybe the explanation you were given is made to be seen as being clear cut, so as not to leave room for misconstrual, where you are taught in a sort of catechism style.
I really think you should go on, It's not important if the serpent was a "fake" god or if he was Satan. Because it's suppose to represent bad.
?How did you arrive to your conclusion
No. He may the a Elohim, but not the Elohim.
?Is Yahweh not also Elohim
Yahweh is an individual. The Elohim, in Genesis 1, created the inhabitable world, while the individual who is of the classification, Elohim, created his garden with his humans to be the god of.
?If the Tree of Knowledge was not made by Yahweh and the Elohim did not create anything then what is it and where did it come from.
Do you think that the priesthood of the Yahweh god had that in mind when they wrote Genesis?
The serpent is the 'talking serpent'.
It is words and thought that speak of 'becoming'. It is deceptive because there is only 'being'.
I don't remember reading anything like that in the Bible.
Go back to the drawing board my friend. Food for thought. Satan or Lucifer as the brightest star demanded to god that not one soul would be lost with his plan.
So, was there an angel watching this, who later told you about it?
Jesus said that he would give the souls or humans a choice.
As an interpretation of Revelation 12 and Isaiah 14?
As then Lucifer was casted out of Heaven with the Hosts.
The "choice" would be to disregard the official rules, for solutions that are self-derived.
So who is the Serpent? As the Snakie snakie only presented a choice, hmmm who does that sound like? Who does a vengeful or wrathful god sound more like? Jebus or Satanus? Hrmm..... The wrabbit hole truelly get deeper the more you ponder this... As well the stories of the bible and other religious books tend to become more clear.
I don't remember reading anything like that in the Bible
So, was there an angel watching this, who later told you about it?
The "choice" would be to disregard the official rules, for solutions that are self-derived
The location of the Garden of Eden in Genesis corresponds to the same location described by ancient Canaanite mythology.
The serpent in the Garden was a A.nun.na.ki named En.ki (Ea,Posidon,Ptah,Oannes etc). Half brother to En.lil (Yahweh). En.ki was born first, but not to the origional mother. Succession rules state that the heir can not be born from a concubine. Zecharia Sitchin's books lays all of this out in detail. And the Garden of E.din (place in the faraway built) was in Mesopotamia. This explains why different Els were warring against each other in the biblical days. Each El had his own people to watch over. En.ki ruled the African domains, while Yahweh got the Semitic peoples.
That interpretation has been called into question and is no longer supported so much, but rather it is believed that there were other centers of myth creation that preceded the Sumerians.
. . . everything is traced back to the Sumerian times as they also had a Noah a Moses a Jesus and so forth.
Human rulers within the individual boundaries of those sovereign regions do come into conflict with its El person, and are susceptible to being called to explain their actions in the court of that offended deity
I'm not stating what I believe is the right way.
. . . are you stating that we don't have free will and we must follow these rules or else we will not be allowed entrance through those "Pearlie Gates"?
I'm talking about mythology, including the biblical version.
So is there 1 god or many? Maybe we should call them the Divine respectively, to discern the many?
. . . the fact that in all books there is a Noah, a Moses and a Jesus still holds true.