I have been recently studying the veracity and timeline IRT the book of Daniel, as it pertains to the dead sea scrolls and the general timelines and
truth of its authorship. I'm pleased to report I believe the book to be and inspired authorship of Daniel.
But, it was during a nightly study that an idea came to my mind. An idea that may in fact be blasphemous. I only throw this idea out as exactly
this: AN EXERCISE IN IMAGINATION.
This will be a short read before I get to the point. Please have the patience to read this before scrolling to the bottom to see my
I throw this idea to you, the wolves, to dissect as a possibility or not?
Here goes my bad attempt of a prologue. I will jump around a bit confusingly, but it should all come together in my basic rudimentary attempt.
During the Sanhedrin trial of Jesus when the high priest asked Jesus: "Are you the Messiah, the Son of the Blessed one?" Jesus responded "I am: and
you shall see the Son of man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven."
(RIGHT HAND OF POWER)
"At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory."
(COMING IN A CLOUD)
"Look, He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of
(COMING WITH THE CLOUDS)
"For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead
in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And
so we will be with the Lord forever."
(CAUGHT UP WITH THEM IN THE CLOUDS)(THEM)
"For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man."
"But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with
fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up."
"As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man."
(DAYS OF NOAH? GUESS THERE WAS A LOT OF TECHNOLOGY BACK THEN!)
Jesus claims to be the "Son of Man". This term is used to denote two things at once in my view.
1) He claims the crown as "VICTORIOUS HUMAN BEING" who has withstood the trials of Sin. This title is mostly used in the new testament. However, it
is used in the old testament to describe the human condition. However, in book of Daniel, "I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son
of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him."
(This verbiage belongs in the new testament, as it is a total break from old testament verbiage.)
2) The title is also used to denote the Messiah. Jesus claimed this as his preferred title in the new testament. The old testament usually employed
this term to define the condition of a "human being."
Thus, I perceive the use of this title as Jesus attempt to claim title as the chosen leader and champion of human kind; while conversely confessing
his frailty and weakness and thus expressing humility before us and god as he is still human.
Just wanted to address that. Moving on...
The book of revelation specifically states Jesus will set up his millennial kingdom on earth that will reign for 1,000 years. After this kingdom, a
new Earth and Jerusalem will be created. John goes on to describe the new Jerusalem. My interpretation of this is a giant space craft. A humongous
space craft that has twelve gates. The city is transparent, the roads are of a transparent gold hue. The habitat, to me, describes a different level
of reality and being. No point here. Just good reference material. The new Jerusalem will be a giant space station for ghost like beings. A city
with transparent streets and walls, illuminated by God himself, cubed in form, having 12 gates.
"And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband."
"And he carried me away in the Spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me the great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from
God, having the glory of God. Her light was like a most precious stone, like a jasper stone, clear as crystal. Also she had a great and high wall
with twelve gates, and twelve angels at the gates, and names written on them, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:
three gates on the east, three gates on the north, three gates on the south, and three gates on the west.
Now the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb. And he who talked with me had a gold
reed to measure the city, its gates, and its wall. The city is laid out as a square; its length is as great as its breadth. And he measured the city
with the reed: twelve thousand furlongs. Its length, breadth, and height are equal. Then he measured its wall: one hundred and forty-four cubits,
according to the measure of a man, that is, of an angel. The construction of its wall was of jasper; and the city was pure gold, like clear glass.
The foundations of the wall of the city were adorned with all kinds of precious stones: the first foundation was jasper, the second sapphire, the
third chalcedony, the fourth emerald, the fifth sardonyx, the sixth sardius, the seventh chrysolite, the eighth beryl, the ninth topaz, the tenth
chrysoprase, the eleventh jacinth, and the twelfth amethyst. The twelve gates were twelve pearls: each individual gate was of one pearl. And the
street of the city was pure gold, like transparent glass."
Some more points to make:
1) Jesus = Right Hand of God. Thus, he rules on behalf of God.
2) Jesus will return from the Sky with a great army. (Aliens and Alien Spacecraft)
3) A new Earth will be created. And with it, a cubed space craft that will become the new Jerusalem.
Now. I think it is possible that the book of Revelation actually describes Alien beings in the presence of the Almighty:
Immediately I was in the Spirit; and behold, a throne set in heaven, and One sat on the throne. And He who sat there was like a jasper and a sardius
stone in appearance; and there was a rainbow around the throne, in appearance like an emerald. Around the throne were twenty-four thrones, and on the
thrones I saw twenty-four elders sitting, clothed in white robes; and they had crowns of gold on their heads. And from the throne proceeded
lightnings, thunderings, and voices. Seven lamps of fire were burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.
(CHUCK MISSLER HYPOTHESIZES THAT THE STONES REPRESENT DIFFERENT COLORS OF LIGHT AND RAYS OF LIGHT)
In the center, around the throne, were four living creatures, and they were covered with eyes, in front and in back. The first living creature was
like a lion, the second was like an ox, the third had a face like a man, the fourth was like a flying eagle. Each of the four living creatures had six
wings and was covered with eyes all around, even under its wings. Day and night they never stop saying:
“Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come.”
Whenever the living creatures give glory, honor and thanks to him who sits on the throne and who lives for ever and ever, the twenty-four elders fall
down before him who sits on the throne and worship him who lives for ever and ever. They lay their crowns before the throne and say:
“You are worthy, our Lord and God,
to receive glory and honor and power,
for you created all things,
and by your will they were created
and have their being.”
Some questions to be asked:
1) Who are the 4 creatures?
2) Who are the 24 elders? Are they human? Or, are they something else?
3) Do the 4 creatures lead the 24 elders? It seems so.
4) Where does Jesus fit into this?
1) Is he one of the 24 elders?
2) Is he sitting at the right hand of God receiving praise as well?
3) Is he the physical manifestation of God, and thus given praise and the title of "Ancient of Days"?
5) If he is given this title, then are the Fallen Angels rebelling because God took the form of a new and what they seem to deem an unworthy and
Most Christians will undoubtedly say that Jesus is not one of the 24 elders.
If he were one of the 24 elders, it would mean he is the Saviour of Mankind, but not the Saviour of Alienkind and thus Allkind. The 24 elders would
represent the Saviors of each species.
If this is totally wrong, and not a possibility, please point it out to me.
1) Jesus will return with an army of Aliens inside of Alien Space Craft.
2) Jesus will bring a large spaceship that will house the new form of Mankind, or the souls of the dead.
3) Jesus sits at the right hand of God. He rules Mankind. He is the chosen ruler/representative for the human race, for those that have been
4) The 24 Elders are representatives/messiah's of other humanoid species.
5) Question: Is Jesus one of the 24 elders?
6) Question: Do the 24 elders worship Jesus? Thus, the 24 species would worship God in human form. Hence, we were chosen amongst all of God's
7) And to the contrary of this: Genesis did mention that mankind was made in God's image.
8) Is the purpose of Jesus return to bring the human race into a new Galactic community/government???
Interesting way of looking at what is about to happen.
Please digest this and leave your comments.
I don't believe this is true. It just struck me as a possibility. Who knows? It could be true. This is a place to discuss such things.
I am a believer in Christ, and try to follow his teachings. I have a veracious appetite for study of the prophecies of the Old and New Testaments.
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