Study: 65 Percent Of Coal Plants In Danger Of Closure

New EPA regulations could force the closure of 65 percent of coal plants across the country, A Duke University study shows. That trend can already be seen in Indiana.

Duke Energy officials is planning to close four of its coal processing units at its Wabash River Facility in 2015. They are still deciding whether to transition a fifth unit to a natural gas processor.

Duke Energy Spokesman Lew Middleton says since 1990, Duke has spent about $2.8 billion to upgrade its Indiana facilities so they comply with EPA regulations.

indianapublicmedia.org...

There you go folks lets Go Green!

After spending billions of dollars upgrading to meet new EPA regulations translate that across the entire country that adds up to trillions on dollars spent .

Remember now 65% in danger of closure:

So what happens to workers,at coal plants?

Then what happens to coal miners(like my grandfather was btw)

So what are they going to do for a living?

Oh and then keep an eye on your electric bills "natural gas is cheaper" since coal has a higher efficiency than natural gas.

Related reading:

hotair.com...


LOLZ at workers sorry bout your luck.

Hmmm if they say so.

re-schooling programs to install solar panels and windturbines.. it will provide alot of jobs..

Originally posted by prelar
re-schooling programs to install solar panels and windturbines.. it will provide alot of jobs..

Great! So we can have electricity during the day to keep those lights on and once in a while at night so long as it's windy.

Originally posted by prelar
re-schooling programs to install solar panels and windturbines.. it will provide alot of jobs..

Jobs yeah in China
Re education camps paid for by whom?

For the record the Sun doesn't shine every day, nor does the wind blow everyday.

Coal works 24/7 regardless of weather, and that brings us up to another point.

Where is the sense in promotion of a technology that depends on the climate?

As the same people who push green crap keep telling me the climate keeps changing.

Coal is a fantastic way to garner cheap energy. Provides great jobs as well.
When I lived in KY we had the cheapest Energy in the nation (this was based upon Coal primarily) and before I left we had unemployment rising (mines being closed/scaled back) and skyrocketing energy.

I am fine with "green energy" but it needs to be a slow switch. People can barely afford to heat/power their homes right now and the more regulations and move away from Coal (there is clean burning coal as well) the harder it is getting for most people.

and yet solar in the US now employs more people than there are actors in California,
i guess if you want to get rid of pollution you have to close costly coal and go for renewable solar.

makes alot of sense.

you are just supporting the old paridime of power generation and control of the energy sector
any reason why you support dirty costly energy over the future of power generation?

any good reason?
xploder

reply to post by neo96


Bring America to it's knees!

Make it a third world country, so that we are "EQUAL" to the rest of the world! (even though China is exempt from pollution mandates)

Isn't this the plan of Agenda 21? You know, that thing that the globalists use as a world court and tells countries that have wealth that to participate they have to make their country and citizens poor?????

Look at the globalists whom are US citizens whom are benefitting from the rape of their own country and citizens!!!

Al Gore??? You know, the global warming guy, whom got caught! The guy who invested in FIsker heavily and had it bailed out at the expense of the tax payer of America!!!!

Not to mention Obamas Czar, whom used to work for GE whom seems to be the ONLY company that will be allowed to use coal for electricity free from government regulations???

Yea, bend over America! Keep believing that those you elected are working for you, while proving by their actions that they are nothing more than the death of you and your families!!! sigh

star and flag Neo
coal plants closing, oil going to china, nuke plants crumbling

is the the dawning of the age of hilarious?
looks like the US is headed for 3rd world status with no power and also no water

like the two things you need most for everything else to follow

Originally posted by lynxpilot

Originally posted by prelar
re-schooling programs to install solar panels and windturbines.. it will provide alot of jobs..

Great! So we can have electricity during the day to keep those lights on and once in a while at night so long as it's windy.

actually with the new long term power storage units passing testing you will find a 24/7 supply is possable

xploder

reply to post by neo96

For the record the Sun doesn't shine every day, nor does the wind blow everyday.

for the record germany is not exactly the most sunny place on earth,
yet they are the largest generator of solar power per head of population in the world.

and guess what staying with your head in the sand wont fix any problems with generation

get with the 21st century already

xploder

Originally posted by XPLodER

Originally posted by lynxpilot

Originally posted by prelar
re-schooling programs to install solar panels and windturbines.. it will provide alot of jobs..

Great! So we can have electricity during the day to keep those lights on and once in a while at night so long as it's windy.

actually with the new long term power storage units passing testing you will find a 24/7 supply is possable

xploder

Are they compatible with my perpetual motion machine?

reply to post by XPLodER

for the record germany is not exactly the most sunny place on earth,
yet they are the largest generator of solar power per head of population in the world.

and guess what staying with your head in the sand wont fix any problems with generation

get with the 21st century already

Germany doesn't have wind farms that are fined by the government for a Bald Eagle flying into a turbine either!!

Originally posted by XPLodER
and yet solar in the US now employs more people than there are actors in California,
i guess if you want to get rid of pollution you have to close costly coal and go for renewable solar.

makes alot of sense.

you are just supporting the old paridime of power generation and control of the energy sector
any reason why you support dirty costly energy over the future of power generation?

any good reason?
xploder

Actually Coal is far cheaper than solar and provides far more jobs than "all the actors in Cali".

-I am all for slowly transitioning towards more green energy, truly I am- But not in the manner it is happening and not at the cost of energy which is skyrocketing.

We should (IMHO) right now be PUMPING money into R&D to make cheaper and more efficiant solar power and storage batteries...Right now it is stupid to try using our current tech alone since it will get far better over the coming decade. Slowly transition certain areas over to solar/wind and see how it works- What works in Cali/Arizona and such might not work in WA or MI.... We could work towards getting one State/Area on Solar but have the means to supply additional power from additional sources and see how it plays out.

Coal is a finite commodity. No doubt. But transitioning over 30-40 years is far smarter than trying to do whatever the hell it is we are doing now with the economy in its current State. We need the cheapest energy availible (from Coal/Oil or any other way) to lower energy costs and try to kickstart the economy.

If (over a few decades) we find that some States can be fully independent on traditional energy (and go fully green) that is great. If not, we are not collapsing our economy and hurting people prematurely.

I wonder when they plan on starting the infrastructure rebuild that is necessary for millions of micro generators getting plugged into the grid?

Whoops.

NA infrastructure is not currently capable of handling dispersed power generation. Wasn't designed that way.

reply to post by neo96


if you want to look at it from a science perspective instead of a political one,

These nanowires are conductive enough to extract charges easily, but long enough to provide the depth needed for light absorption, Jean says. Using a bottom-up growth process to grow these nanowires and infiltrating them with lead-sulfide quantum dots produces a 50 percent boost in the current generated by the solar cell, and a 35 percent increase in overall efficiency, Jean says. The process produces a vertical array of these nanowires, which are transparent to visible light, interspersed with quantum dots.

web.mit.edu...

so 50% efficiency is massivly competitive with coal for costs.

and with the new production process the cost in energy to produce the cells is halved

They can be manufactured in a room-temperature process, saving energy and avoiding complications associated with high-temperature processing of silicon and other PV materials. They can be made from abundant, inexpensive materials that do not require extensive purification, as silicon does. And they can be applied to a variety of inexpensive and even flexible substrate materials, such as lightweight plastics

same link,
so do you want to talk facts?
or
are you just trying to score points?

xploder

Originally posted by XPLodER
reply to post by neo96

 

For the record the Sun doesn't shine every day, nor does the wind blow everyday.

for the record germany is not exactly the most sunny place on earth,
yet they are the largest generator of solar power per head of population in the world.

and guess what staying with your head in the sand wont fix any problems with generation

get with the 21st century already

xploder

Germany and Solar Energy

As is so often the case in winter, all solar panels more or less stopped generating electricity at the same time. To avert power shortages, Germany currently has to import large amounts of electricity generated at nuclear power plants in France and the Czech Republic. To offset the temporary loss of solar power, grid operator Tennet resorted to an emergency backup plan, powering up an old oil-fired plant in the Austrian city of Graz.

reply to post by XPLodER

for the record germany is not exactly the most sunny place on earth,

I don't give a rats behind what Germany does small population,less energy consumption.

We are talking about the US who consumption of energy far,far,far beyond what alternative can return add that with a cost benefit analysis, and it can not get any more asinine.

Get with the 21st century?

Solar and wind have been around for centuries, and yet only 2 means of energy production has been responsible for the current technological progress of modern civilization.

Coal, and oil that alternatve can never replace.

Originally posted by seeker1963
reply to post by XPLodER

 

for the record germany is not exactly the most sunny place on earth,
yet they are the largest generator of solar power per head of population in the world.

and guess what staying with your head in the sand wont fix any problems with generation

get with the 21st century already

Germany doesn't have wind farms that are fined by the government for a Bald Eagle flying into a turbine either!!

while this is true, i wouldn't like to see any bald eagles die,
if we dont get off coal the whole planet will die



xploder

reply to post by DarKPenguiN


the technology exists now and production is cheep and easy,
we dont need to wait,
germany is an example of what going solar can do,
AND IT MAKES THERE ECONOMY more competitive in the world stage as lower energy costs equal lower manufacturing costs

xploder

reply to post by XPLodER

if you want to look at it from a science perspective instead of a political one,

The science is "the climate is changing" care to answer why push a technology that depends on the climate?