Scientists use brain imaging to reveal the movies in our mind.

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Some very interesting research from Berkeley:

BERKELEY — Imagine tapping into the mind of a coma patient, or watching one’s own dream on YouTube. With a cutting-edge blend of brain imaging and computer simulation, scientists at the University of California, Berkeley, are bringing these futuristic scenarios within reach. Using functional Magnetic Resonance Imaging (fMRI) and computational models, UC Berkeley researchers have succeeded in decoding and reconstructing people’s dynamic visual experiences – in this case, watching Hollywood movie trailers. As yet, the technology can only reconstruct movie clips people have already viewed. However, the breakthrough paves the way for reproducing the movies inside our heads that no one else sees, such as dreams and memories, according to researchers.

I think it's pretty amazing how far technology has come in just the last ten years. Something like this was only the stuff of SiFi movies in the last decade, now It seems to be coming to realization.
Here is what they came up with:

“Our natural visual experience is like watching a movie,” said Shinji Nishimoto, lead author of the study and a post-doctoral researcher in Gallant’s lab. “In order for this technology to have wide applicability, we must understand how the brain processes these dynamic visual experiences.”

They watched two separate sets of Hollywood movie trailers, while fMRI was used to measure blood flow through the visual cortex, the part of the brain that processes visual information. On the computer, the brain was divided into small, three-dimensional cubes known as volumetric pixels, or “voxels.” “We built a model for each voxel that describes how shape and motion information in the movie is mapped into brain activity,” Nishimoto said.

The brain activity recorded while subjects viewed the first set of clips was fed into a computer program that learned, second by second, to associate visual patterns in the movie with the corresponding brain activity. Brain activity evoked by the second set of clips was used to test the movie reconstruction algorithm. This was done by feeding 18 million seconds of random YouTube videos into the computer program so that it could predict the brain activity that each film clip would most likely evoke in each subject.

Finally, the 100 clips that the computer program decided were most similar to the clip that the subject had probably seen were merged to produce a blurry yet continuous reconstruction of the original movie.

So the video above isn't exactly what was recorded, but a video clip merged with the result of the fMRI reading. Still, the it's a step further in the right direction and interesting to see nonetheless.

I could see this being developed for many uses in a lot of different fields, but honestly I think we'll see this mainly in military or government use, of course, so It will be probably be a long time at least before we'll be uploading dreams or thoughts into our computers or the ATS "dreams and predictions" forum.

The good news is, maybe our tinfoil hats will actually come in to use in the future.
What do you think?

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Is this the same?

reply to post by ChuckNasty


Apparently so. I didn't see that in the search.
I did include a video though, which I don't see in the other thread if that makes any difference.

reply to post by kx12x


eh it was a few years ago so i dont think the mods would mind as it is a cool video and i had not heard of it star and flag op and thanks for teaching me about something

This reminds me of my thread-worthy dream! (See link below)

What is described here is the infantile stage of cerebral imaging. This thread couldn't have come with much better timing...

Well strap my ass in for the procedure and enjoy all the porn movies spewing from my head.

This is really cool, I would love to be able to record my dreams every single night and upload them to youtube! Especially the transcendental and lucid dreams!

It would encourage more people to pay closer attention to their dreams and there would be greater interest in lucid dreaming. Perhaps I could make a career out of it LOL

But like any technology there is a downside and I wonder else this might be used for? interrogation comes to mind along with thought police and mind control.

reply to post by kx12x


This would be interesting from the view of psychology. First and foremost....how similar (or dissimilar) are our thoughts in texture and cohesiveness? Beyond that:

- what is it like to be less intelligent (someone who is less intelligent may not even be able to understand the conceptualization of being more intelligent....but the opposite is not so true).

- the images....not very realistic to what is on the screen. But they give some insight. Is the lack of clarity related to the ability to pull data from the mind? Or is it an artifact of how the individual is percieving the world around them?

This is very interesting. Thanks for sharing.

RNM has been developed after about 50 years of neuro-electromagnetic involuntary human experimentations. According to many scientists, within a few years it is expected that DNA microchips will be implanted in the human brain which would make it inherently controllable. With RNM, it will be possible to read and control a person's emotional thought processes along with the subconscious and dreams. At present, around the world, supercomputers are monitoring millions of people simultaneously with the speed of 20 billion bits per second especially in countries like USA, Japan, Israel and many European countries.
RNM has a set of certain programs functioning at different levels, like the signals intelligence system which uses electromagnetic frequencies (EMF), to stimulate the brain for RNM and the electronic brain link (EBL). The EMF Brain Stimulation system has been designed as radiation intelligence which means receiving information from inadvertently originated electromagnetic waves in the environment. However, it is not related to radioactivity or nuclear detonation. The recording machines in the signals intelligence system have electronic equipment that investigate electrical activity in humans from a distance. This computer-generated brain mapping can constantly monitor all electrical activities in the brain. The recording aid system decodes individual brain maps for security purposes.

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For everyone who thinks this is "really cool," I encourage strorngly that you read the above link and the one you will find supplied below, as a line out is a line in. If you can read the pictures in someone's mind, you can put them there to be read, as well. Yup, pretty cool. Predictive crime, and such, building a planet where truth and innocence are things of the past, and now up for popular vote, or just offending the wrong person.
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Of course, it may be way cool that all kinds of technology can read thoughts and pictures and attribute them "scientifically" anywhere we wish it to be, pick your favorite hero or villain....life should be as simple as comics, shouldn't it? More entertaining that way, anyhow.....

But it should be considered that if your neurons can be monitored, they can also be bypassed, to give a picture to be "monitored," so we "know who and what we are dealing with," right?

reply to post by tetra50


you are correct....but paranioa aside....consider the insights you could get.

Have you ever wondered if what I call red is what you call red?

The perceptive insights alone would answer several philosophical questions. For instance.....how are visual perceptions effected by smell? emotional state?

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan


I agree with you completely, in the interests for collecting data which would give us further indications of how and why the brain works as it does, and what that means for consciousness, etc...
But, in order to let that go, over what I posted, I would have to have a trust I just don't have, and I believe any informed individual in these times, and in the current situation, should be aware of, as well. You cast my reply and the sources I gave, the technology available in use, as "paranoic." Having already put it in that vein, there is nowhere for me to go with that, because you have put my response and its sources in a certain category with a certain label.

I don't know. Perhaps we don't see red the same way. But I don't need a window into your mind via technology that can also convince me you are something else you aren't, to tell me this. I deduced this from two posts via an internet forum. Go figure...
Wonder what that means for consciousness....

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan


BTW, weren't you supposed to get some kind of signed release from me before using my pic as your avatar???
LOL

reply to post by tetra50


Hit the link in my signature....ill set you up with an avatar made just for you.

reply to post by kx12x


No it will not reveal movies only the general concepts.

Mind monitoring is already ahead in regards to sensing intention and meaning (even as a lie detector it has been developed to be more accurate). What this will provide is for example after showing a terrorist under interrogation a general object lest say I suspect he was targeting a bridge, I surreptitiously show him (and record his response to) images of bridges and then probe him for the target and seek to find a match. The need to not permitting the sample to be gathered under the subjects conscious control is to avoid intentional obfuscation, as for detecting lies that part has already been developed.

What we need now is the development of counter measures to mind probing, or we will be doomed. Imagine the Chinese starting to monitor their population in regards to allegiance to the Communist Party and starting to put those in sterilization programs or sending them to labor or reeducation camps, the Party would last the next millennium. (I used China as a totalitarian and authoritative regimes example, the same could be used to find authentic Muslims or allegiance to a company or security service.)

PS: This is a variation of the study/project to detect visual anomalies, for example aerial photos, the human mind can process images at an incredible speed even without being consciously aware of the image but due to our wiring to favor patterns. This type of thing is already in use today, it can also be applied to any other data type if presented in a visual way.

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While I am not a proponent of lying....it is a human trait. I am against technological methods to determine lies. Our thoughts are our property, and should not even be a topic for legal or corporate debate.

ETA for clarity: I mean, not even to discuss "how far should you go". Current lie detector tests, in my opinion, are an infringement of privacy rights (unless consented to without duress).

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan


While I can see your point, I could see a benefit (but also the dangers) in a mental probe than will be infallible, this of course will be possibility in the future but as you and I pointed out the dangers and possibilities for misuse abound but once the tech is developed there will be no going back.

I would like to see in place severe restrictions to its use and proliferation, a mental probe will be the first step for a mental rewrite, editing, simulation and preservation.

If you are a fan of Startrek this type of technology exists in that universe and is generally banned in the Federation, even so the situations were it is used, in violation of the prohibition, is a common theme, even by the "good" guys.

I can envision some exceptional uses as you say in a voluntary base or in cases that revolve around a third party interest of life and death and not having as the primary aim to aid the state/accuser. There would also be other cases that the sacrifice of an individual rights of privacy would be clearly supplanted by the benefits of the many (individuals not the state or any legal collective) but those will lead to a very dangerous slippery slope.

Then there are the medical uses, for example in coma patients or even recently deceased...

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan


No one has the same senses we already know that. We all see colors differently, smell differently, taste differently, hearing, and so on.

Its called DNA. Genetics make us experience life differently to each other.

And this also changes due to age

I always wondered why do some people dream in black and white, do they just forget to apply the color?

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
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Have you ever wondered if what I call red is what you call red?

I have wondered this and although I have no proof I've come to the conclusion the answer is yes. Just looking at the blue sky if it were a different colour say red it would not look too pretty. But even if they get this working you still won't be able to answer that question because when they see the colours on screen they will see them the same way they would normally if you know what I mean.

Once I saw this, it almost looks like what the OP describes I think.