Ancient Civilizations Quiz for ATSers

I'm going to guess Machu Pichu, I know it doesn't correlate with what I've posted above but, I just have an inkling.

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Very good guess!

It's in Eastern Europe.

I'm going with the Holy Roman Empire or Hungarian Empire. I'm not sure where this site is located though.

reply to post by kimish


No...but you're very close...

Are those the Caucasus mountains in the background?

reply to post by isyeye


Is it related to kurgans

Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by Trueman

 

Tru, I saw the Swahili girl and had to star and flag your thread right off.

Wish I could
double up for the great idea.

Haha......thanks Randy.

Jungle fever uh?

reply to post by kimish


No....It's not the Caucasus mountains.

reply to post by punkinworks10


No...Not the Kurgans.


Hint: Vlad's home is close by.

The 85-7-7-1 a b c d question

This is an abbreviated question that use to get asked in Archaeology 101 and higher courses some years ago. This is a simplified version.

You are at an excavation, you have been successful!

You have 85 sources of dates that come in at 4,000 BP +-200 years

You have 7 sources of dates that come in at 3,750 BP with +- 500 years

You have another 7 sources of dates that come in at 4,250 BP with +- 500 years

Sources of dates are from pottery, Radiocarbon, Dendrochronology, Thermoluminescence, Optically stimulated luminescence, Archaeomagnetic, Lead Corrosion, Amino acid dating, Obsidian hydration and Rehydroxylation pottery comparison, etc

The above applies to all four the following alternatives which are:

A. You have one date that is to 12,000 BP with +- 1,000 years

B. You have one date that comes up as modern

C. You have a item that cannot be dated

D. You have an item that dates to 6,000 BP but with a range of +- 2,500 years

So what do you report as the age of the site for the following situations A, B, C and D?

I'm going with the reign of Vladd the Impaler.

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Originally posted by Hanslune
The 85-7-7-1 a b c d question

This is an abbreviated question that use to get asked in Archaeology 101 and higher courses some years ago. This is a simplified version.

You are at an excavation, you have been successful!

You have 85 sources of dates that come in at 4,000 BP +-200 years

You have 7 sources of dates that come in at 3,750 BP with +- 500 years

You have another 7 sources of dates that come in at 4,250 BP with +- 500 years

Sources of dates are from pottery, Radiocarbon, Dendrochronology, Thermoluminescence, Optically stimulated luminescence, Archaeomagnetic, Lead Corrosion, Amino acid dating, Obsidian hydration and Rehydroxylation pottery comparison, etc

The above applies to all four the following alternatives which are:

A. You have one date that is to 12,000 BP with +- 1,000 years

B. You have one date that comes up as modern

C. You have a item that cannot be dated

D. You have an item that dates to 6,000 BP but with a range of +- 2,500 years

So what do you report as the age of the site for the following situations A, B, C and D?

Interesting question.I would go with who ever is funding the site would like, answer.


Kidding aside,my bet would be 4000 BP+-200 with the number of sources.But,what are the depths of these artifacts that are found and the relationship to the dating?

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For this example stratigraphy is one of the sources of the dates provided.

The 'money' source is either silent on the matter or would like something dramatic and important found, they almost always do, if a government source the only requirement is that a peer review publication be made to document the excavation and finds. Plus the accounting of the use of funds is made within the designated timeline. If in Egypt that means a copy of the report be given to relevant office once published and in some cases that means it has to be translated into Arabic (depending on if the publication language is not English).

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Hi Hans,
This is what I would do,

Situation A)
A. You have one date that is to 12,000 BP with +- 1,000 years

I would report the site as 4000 years old and give a dating tolerance of +/- 500 years
And report the 12,000 yr old date and try to provide a an explanation for the anomolous date.

Situation B)
B. You have one date that comes up as modern

Same as above., report the modern date, and explain.

Situation C)
C. You have a item that cannot be dated

And again same

Situation D)
D. You have an item that dates to 6,000 BP but with a range of +- 2,500 years

Again the same, but depending on which dating method is used that gave the +/- 2500 years, I might just pin it down 4000 years old +/- 500.

But in all case would report the need for more work to clarify wide range of dating data, and would start writing grant proposals to anyone whom might fund more fieldwork.

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Just as an aside
That site profile fits a early jomon site, a an early andean culture , or somewhere in the fertile cresent, maybe in the area of the harrapan city states or it could be China or even Korea or north Africa, anatolia, Britain, iberia, the balkans, or melanesia.

Originally posted by punkinworks10
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Just as an aside
That site profile fits a early jomon site, a an early andean culture , or somewhere in the fertile cresent, maybe in the area of the harrapan city states or it could be China or even Korea or north Africa, anatolia, Britain, iberia, the balkans, or melanesia.

The original case study was based on a dig from the 1960's that took place in the Nile Delta near Diametta

The answer in all cases is the 'standard' date, with the 'awkward' dates being mentioned in the notes.

reply to post by isyeye


It's Sarmizegetusa in Romania.
Sometimes referred to as the 'Romanian Stonehenge'

A Dacian military, political and religious complex, built in the early 2nd century.

Let me bring in a new one.
This should not be too hard:

reply to post by Movhisattva


Hogeum of Kal Saflieni dated to about 2800 BC I do believe - nice place

PDF on it and other ruins in Malta

Link

Another link

Where is this unmoved stone located?