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I dont know if I would notice anything, you talk about factions that would rise and grow, to conquer. Im pretty sure thats what we live in now. depending on who is president and the ruling party, sorta depends on which faction will rule government for 4 years, until another battle won only with propaganda starts up again.
Originally posted by 0zzymand0s
I'd also worry about money, to be perfectly honest.
With the government gone, there is nothing stopping big banks from hiring a private army to seize our deposits. Do you really believe they would let us in to remove our stuff from our safety deposit boxes? This would start a cascade down to the smaller community banks and credit unions. Local businesses would have no way to pay their employees. Those employees would no longer have any incentive to go to work. The utilities would be up for grabs. Few people will work for nothing, especially when they need to be home, protecting their family from marauding gangs of hungry desperate "others."
It would be a mess, and it would unmake our world and everything in it.
There would no longer be any money. Without the government backing the money...it would cease to exist. Banks would be an obsolete business...everything would go back to barter.
After the initial looting of the stores and the shelves bare, there would be nothing left. Companies would close down overnight because they are all built on credit and banking and the fact that the government alone guarantees the value of the dollar.
It is amazing what some people are concerned about in this thread or what their plans would be, like the one person who is calming going to go out and buy supplies...I don't think people quite understand how involved government is with our lives and the continuation of our society.
I love it!
It shows how people, given the chance to live freely, will eventually form governments again and end up enslaved just the same way as they were before in order to win some peace and security.
Living under some type of government is necessary for all people in order to ensure some measure of peace and justice. Its just a matter of how much of your freedom you're willing to give up to ensure that peaceful existence.
I'm watching the video now, but my thoguhts right off the bat are that this person confuses Libertarian with Anarchy.
I am not aware of a Libertarian platform that suggest we shut down all Government. I am not aware of a Libertarian platform that suggest we abolish the Police force in whole.
So right off the bat- the whole premise of the video is, well... wrong.
“Libertarians believe in individual liberty, personal responsibility, and freedom from government – on all issues at all times… A libertarian is someone who thinks you should be free to live your life as you want to live it, not as [the President of the United States] thinks you should – who believes you should raise your children by your values, not those of some far-off bureaucrat who’s using your child as a pawn to create some brave new world – who thinks that, because you’re the one who gets up every day and goes to work, you should be free to keep every dollar you earn, to spend it, save it, give it away as you think best.”– Harry Browne (1933-2006),1996 and 2000 Libertarian Party Presidential Candidate and author of Liberty A-Z: 872 Libertarian Soundbites You Can Use Right Now!
“Individual freedom, under a system of universally understood and accepted rules, such as appear in the U.S. Constitution, or the Ten Commandments. The system assumes the principle of Undesigned Order, under which people--sovereign individuals--interact and thereby produce and live as best they can. No other system could ever be as productive -- by magnitudes of generated real income. Nor could any other system be as satisfying to the individual. The proof of this pudding is the USA -- what it was, not what it is becoming.” – Richard Timberlake, economist and retired University of Georgia professor
What if you woke up tomorrow and government was gone?
but before I go there, your politically linear definition of Libertarianism is a little skewed. We don't want NO government... we just want less. From the federal level, down, more balance through the states and local communities.
“Libertarians believe in individual liberty, personal responsibility, and freedom from government – on all issues at all times… A libertarian is someone who thinks you should be free to live your life as you want to live it, not as [the President of the United States] thinks you should – who believes you should raise your children by your values, not those of some far-off bureaucrat who’s using your child as a pawn to create some brave new world – who thinks that, because you’re the one who gets up every day and goes to work, you should be free to keep every dollar you earn, to spend it, save it, give it away as you think best.”– Harry Browne (1933-2006),1996 and 2000 Libertarian Party Presidential Candidate
As for waking one day to find a total lack of government? It would be chaos; the kind of dream an anarchist would give their left sand-pebble for.
It happened in Egypt. It happened in Iceland. Anarchy did not break out in the streets as a result....well maybe a bit in Egypt but I think you get my point. That is the issue I have with the video. It makes the assumption that by dissolving the Federal Government, total chaos and no rules would be an immediate result. That is an awfully big leap dont you think?
Fair point, but couldn't the same be said in the event of economic collapse?
If it were to happen today (which is a possibility), it would not be due to Libertarianism. Hence why I am not making the connection?
Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by MrWendal
My point is that Libertarianism won't work because most people can't handle the responsibility of self government. It would create utter chaos.
I didn't mean to imply that libertarianism is to blame for the state of the country. I simply pointed out how we had it before yet here we are. Personal responsibility is dead.
One of the biggest problems I had in growing closer to the Libertarians was in just those kinds of words floating around in their (then) quasi-official platform. Another was their idea of legalizing ALL drugs... which spun me about so damned fast!