Originally posted by sulaw
reply to post by Guenter
I would like to know what you would suggest as a means of ending the hatred the war and everything that it entails.
Well most of us say follow the $$$. And war is after all a profit for a few. Sure what I am to say now will get me hate-mail pretty much and quick.
But the problem is in the system of our economics, mostly the capitalistic system. Since I am in the middle of writing my book on the "progress" of
civilization, one of the topics I am dealing and working with is the transition from tribal to civilization. And true war as we know it today or since
1,000's of years is a product of civilization. We have to get this into our heads that there is a difference between a dispute, a small border
skirmish, a personal argument going bad where one ends up dead, and the true organization of war as we know it, - the conquest and keeping of
territory and resources.
Civilization stands out with the invention of organized religion, not natural spirituality! Just with our present us vs. them rhetoric, meaning "US"
good Christians vs. "Them" bad Muslims ...
What makes our modern civilization so war like is after all capitalism. And especially the creation of Multinational corporations. And they are making
the $$$. They crash the market, move factories across the globe etc. And if one national leaders says: "Not with me..." then he is a dictator or
what ever. Private business is good, but it is also bad. And it's the "Size" of the business that makes it good or bad. The small Mom & Pop store
serving sandwiches and espresso is not the problem. It's the big corporation as "Prison for profits.." "Blackwater, PMC" and other things. The
Mafia is after all also a "Pvt company". And when you then have these pvt corporation influencing governments, plus churches brainwashing their
followers into backing this or that agenda, then you have the right condition for a new and senseless war.
We would have to sit down and re-define TRADE. Trade originally was the exchange of goods lacking and/or in abundance with the opposite side of the
trade. And if some country does not want to sell us oil, then maybe its time to really look at different ways how to manage our energy needs. Instead
of changing the political scene, change regimes and so forth. The common citizen is made to believe that this or that conflict is to fight "evil"
while behind the scene it is to get control over resources.
Remove the profit thinking and foremost remove the religious brainwashing. Do you think that the wars fought for god and country were really for
religion? or to defend against the infidels or what ever? The crusades were for the control of the Asian trade routes. Only the lil' smuck in uniform
cried for god and country and actually "believed" it. The merchants in Europe knew exactly why they fought in the holy land against the Muslims, to
get their trade routes back so they would not have to pay some "Tax". And in order to make someone fight and physically kill a human, you have to
demonize him. So then you end up with the filthy JEW, the Japanese RAT and all this stuff. We are after all a naked ape if you want to accept it or
not. The fact is a bird cannot live in the water at 1,000ft depths and neither can a shark fly at 10,000ft altitude like an eagle. And this humbleness
to understand who we are as a species, is needed and is needed to be reflected on in the nuts and bolts dealings of here and now.
And in terms of private ownership:
We are a communal people! We feel best in small groups up to 200 people or about. That's why those small 50-200 people Mom&Pop companies are so
successful! And if I can alone man a hot dog stand down town and need no help, the moment I need an extra hand I would have to "Share" the profits.
Not just pay a "wage" of x-$$$/hr. That's why such small family businesses are doing so well. Because their wage incentive is the common goal. So
they are not counting x-$$/hr but they counting their success that they have all paid for. And this success is not always clean cut 5-10$/hr or what
ever. So then for big companies make them PUBLIC owned. Where WE the people are the share holders. So have a NATIONAL oil company that WE the people
control, not some Billionaire thugs. And once this is achieved on a level playing field, I wonder how many people still would want to pay taxes for
planes and missiles? Or keep the army down to a bare minimum to defend reall some nut-case who would dare to physically attack.
Revolutions die quickly on a full belly a happy BBQ and a good wine in ones hands.