reply to post by network dude
At least you asked me what I understand. That shows wisdom on your part. Of course my wisdom is not of any import.
How can it be explained easily? Hmmm, take for example a dollar bill. One of the main functions of the Secret Service is to prosecute forgery of U.
S. currency. And there are tons of forgeries out there.
What do you think is the best way to determine if a dollar bill is a forgery or not? Is it necessary to study each forgery individually? Or would it
be more prudent to study the real one. Then when a possible forgery comes along you can compare it to the real one?
So it is not necessary to study each field of the occult to find out which one is true or not. Just as it is a worthless, and unnecessary endeavor to
try and study each of the thousands of the world's religions to try and find which one has truth.
All one has to do is go to the source of truth and study it. Then it can test all the others against the truth to see whether it holds up or not.
Now, when I mentioned that the occult is in the purview of Satan the Devil is is not without some understanding.
The occult is controlled by unseen spirit forces. Now since we are beneath the spirit realm, and spirits are of a higher nature and intelligence than
us, how can we be sure who from that realm is telling the truth and who is not?
Certainly God has our best interests at heart, and he is in the spirit realm. He is a trustworthy source who has our best intentions at heart.
Now God himself has inspired the words of truth. So those who read it DO have truth, understanding and discernment.
In fact God calls his words healthy:
(1 Timothy 6:3, 4) . . .If any man teaches other doctrine and does not assent to healthful words, those of our Lord Jesus Christ, nor to the
teaching that accords with godly devotion, 4 he is puffed up [with pride], not understanding anything, but being mentally diseased. . .
In fact the man of God is equipped completely to understand the nature of Satan and his attacks against his faith, including the allure of the
(2 Corinthians 2:11) . . .that we may not be overreached by Satan, for we are not ignorant of his designs.
Any teaching that uses Jehovah's name disrespectfully, and that denies that Jesus is the Christ is from Satan the Devil:
(1 John 2:22, 23) . . . This is the Antichrist, the one that denies the Father and the Son. 23 Everyone that denies the Son does not have the
Father either. . .
In actually God's word tells us what to do with books on the occult:
(Acts 19:19, 20) 19 Indeed, quite a number of those who practiced magical arts brought their books together and burned them up before everybody. And
they calculated together the prices of them and found them worth fifty thousand pieces of silver. 20 Thus in a mighty way the word of Jehovah kept
growing and prevailing.
Now I realize that when dealing with people who dabble in the occult or believe it is not wrong, will discredit the Bible, because the Bible condemns
But you ask from what authority do I speak. And it is the authority of God's word. You on the other hand must speak from the authority of your own
understanding, and many, even on this board, speak on the authority of spirits whom the have come into contact with by their occult practices. And so
many blindly believe everything they are told. And almost always all the messages from the spirit world they receive deny Jesus, and slander the
Bible and Jehovah's good name.
Who are you to believe?
Jehovah hates spirits tic practices and condemns them in no small terms:
(Deuteronomy 18:10-12) 10 There should not be found in you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, anyone who employs
divination, a practicer of magic or anyone who looks for omens or a sorcerer, 11 or one who binds others with a spell or anyone who consults a
spirit medium or a professional foreteller of events or anyone who inquires of the dead. 12 For everybody doing these things is something detestable
to Jehovah. . .
And we are also told that those who practice spiritism have no place in God's kingdom:
(Galatians 5:19-21) 19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, and they are fornication, uncleanness, loose conduct, 20 idolatry, practice of
, enmities, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, contentions, divisions, sects, 21 envies, drunken bouts, revelries, and things like these.
As to these things I am forewarning YOU, the same way as I did forewarn YOU, that those who practice such things will not inherit God’s kingdom.
(Revelation 22:15) . . .Outside are the dogs and those who practice spiritism
and the fornicators and the murderers and the idolaters and
everyone liking and carrying on a lie.’
In another place we are told that Satan is the ruler of the world:
(1 John 5:19) . . .but the whole world is lying in the [power of the] wicked one.
Now you may choose to reject God's word as it rightfully is, the word of God and not man's. Almost all who dabble into the occult and know the Holy
Scriptures condemn it, either have to accept the truth, and turn away from the filthy practice, or they must excuse it away in their mind by forming a
hatred for the truth, and deny God's word.
But then again God's own word reveals that person's heart condition, for it is alive, and it exerts power. It is as a mirror when one peers into
it, his own heart is revealed to him. It is able to penetrate to the dividing of the bones, and reveal the true intentions of a person's innermost
thoughts, his seed of desire and motivation, his heart:
(Hebrews 4:12) For the word of God is alive and exerts power and is sharper than any two-edged sword and pierces even to the dividing of soul and
spirit, and of joints and [their] marrow, and [is] able to discern thoughts and intentions of [the] heart.
(1 Thessalonians 2:13) . . .because when YOU received God’s word, which YOU heard from us, YOU accepted it, not as the word of men, but, just as
it truthfully is, as the word of God. . .
(2 Peter 1:20, 21) . . .For YOU know this first, that no prophecy of Scripture springs from any private interpretation. 21 For prophecy was at
no time brought by man’s will, but men spoke from God as they were borne along by holy spirit.