reply to post by network dude
You think I'm uneducated about the stuff Crowley got up to? Have you read any of his work entitled "Confessions"..?
If you have, you'll know all about his rituals involving what were termed 'the Aethers', and so you will know for certain that he was most
definitely involved in conjuring demons, and indeed was possessed by them on a goodly number of occasions.
If you have read any more about Crowley, perhaps his work entitled "Moonchild" you will know that he had a number of long-term goals that were
entirely rooted in opposition to the generally accepted principles of ethics.
Further, by his own mouth/ pen, he has stated that on a number of occasions he set up rituals involving severely perverse behaviour, including
bestiality, as a means of opposing the Godhead and ascending in the ranks of the forces of darkness.
I am not uneducated, and I'm sorry, you have absolutely NO right to comment on what the OTO is or is not, if you cannot see far enough past the
defence of your club (masonry, which I don't actually have a problem with in general terms, so there's another false assumption you made) to realise
that all secret clubs are not created equal, either in structure, intention, methods or beliefs. If you haven't even educated yourself on what
Crowley did & said, how can you possibly comment on the nature and purpose of the OTO..?
Additionally, just because you happen to know a couple of people who are involved (so they say) in the OTO, that doesn't mean you are privy to their
true intents & purposes - they themselves may not be aware of the intents & purposes of those more senior to themselves. Besides which, as you will
be keenly aware, secret clubs will often, um, how to put this - keep things SECRET from those who are not in the club.
Crowley had long-term plans for his legacy which you either know nothing about, or are feigning ignorance regarding. And so what if I'm a Christian?
I wasn't always a Christian, I was a staunch atheist (decided at the age of 8 that God couldn't possibly exist, at least not the God of the Bible,
because I was too aware of science & couldn't resolve the conundrum of why the Christians were teaching the Garden of Eden story as literal fact...)
Afterwards, I looked at every single available spiritual path, deliberately avoiding Christianity because it seemed too narrow-minded. I really
didn't want to be a Christian, but a clear experience of the Truth eventually set me free, in spite of myself even. I became a Christian after some
very strange/ bad experiences, which ultimately had quite devastating consequences, between the age of 12 and 20 (I began seeking spirituality aged
My family has ties to masonry, some other secretive groups & senior military intelligence circles; further, as a result, I know things based on
personal experience that would scare the s%*t out of the majority of people in this world.
The secret societies are not all bad. But the OTO was founded with specific evil intent.
Going back to the rituals for a moment - did you know Crowley led a ritual to make a male goat have intercourse with a woman? This was deliberately
done as a symbol of willful separation from Christ (the goat representing those who have rejected Him in the Book of Revelation) and deliberate
rebellion against the Universal Law (issued in the OT by YHWH as part of the commandments, that bestiality is punishable by death) In designing,
leading and participating in these sorts of rituals, Crowley was making a statement of rebellion against Truth, Righteousness & Justice, emphasising a
deliberate choice to join with the forces of darkness. In fact, it is claimed that by his magical prowess, as a result of literally (by logical
definition) evil choices, he ultimately became a 'demonic' spiritual being whilst living in the physical realm on Earth, working in harmony with the
forces that he conjured.
And no, I'm not a right-wing fundamentalist who believes you MUST accept Christ whilst living on Earth in order to inherit salvation. I believe that
when presented with evidence of His care & involvement in your life, or His Universal sovereignty, or when circumstance/ personal sin leaves you
feeling hopeless, you should make the sensible choice.
The healthy do not need a physician
, and all that.
God is merciful and compassionate beyond what most people can understand - many Christians fail to properly grasp that aspect of Truth, and some have
lost all compassion as a result.