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Originally posted by MrJohnSmith
reply to post by Jepic
Thing is, though, Jepic, even if someone ( ? ) was lucky enough to sink/ disable one of the U.S. carriers, that nation / entity would find that the U.S. had maybe three or four more carriers in service at any one time, and they would be unlikely to let an aggressor " get lucky " a second time, and would find they had woken the proverbial " Sleeping lion "
( Wasn't that quote from Admiral Yamamoto, after Pearl Harbour ? )
so if were gonna be ragging on "obsolte systems" naval guns are about obsolete as missiles have replaced them over the years
Guided missiles began to replace naval artillery as more effective weapons against aircraft and ships in the mid-20th century. Naval artillery calibers greater than 5 inches (13 cm) were used primarily for naval gunfire support after 1944; and no new ships were built with larger naval artillery. Submarines shed deck guns as a handicap in modern naval tactics. Destroyers and frigates carry a single gun of 3- to 5-inch calibre (76.2-127mm) as a backup to missile systems and capable of land fire support. Remaining roles of naval artillery like the 20mm Phalanx CIWS system are for short-range defence against targets which cannot be engaged by guided weapons systems. The US 5"/54 caliber Mark 45 gun is capable of firing 20 rounds per minute to a range of 20 miles.
Originally posted by eriktheawful
reply to post by Jepic
sorry. Won't work.
helicopters do not have the same range as cargo fixed wing craft. By limiting it to helicopters you have just strangled your Destroyer fleet. You're going to need fuel for your ships, because you can't put nuclear power on everyone of them. Sorry, not cost effective due to the equipment, refit, new ships having to be built, and now all he extra personnel that you are going to have to recruit, train and use retention on.
Basically we'd have to scrap the whole fleet of the entire navy. You are out of your mind. We need to be spending LESS on our military and more on other things.
We're doing military cuts right now.....or had you not noticed the news headlines?
You screwed up again.
You have to have fixed wing craft to bring you your supplies, and not all supplies can be air dropped. Such as high tech munitions, fuel, etc.
So you will have to have a flight deck. You've no choice. You just can't replace the carrier.
Good try though. And good attention seeking skills here at ATS. Your thread was basically "Debunked" in the first few pages, with just about EVERYONE here not only disagreeing with you, but proving you wrong.
However, you did a good job keeping this thread up and in front by moving the goal posts, and constantly posting incorrect (or just plain out WRONG) information about weapons systems, engineering, radar systems ,etc.
About the only thing you've proven in this thread to most readers is: You don't know what you're talking about.
Cost effective doesn't exist when you have the economy of China.
All supplies can be air dropped
All supplies can be air dropped. Yes you can put nuclear power on all of them. Cost effective doesn't exist when you have the economy of China. You don't need fixed wing aircraft to supply your destroyers because there is something called a resupply ship