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Luk 1:50 from generation to generation he is merciful to those who fear him.
Luk 12:5 But I will warn you whom you should fear: Fear the one who, after the killing, has authority to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him!
2Co 5:11 Therefore, because we know the fear of the Lord, we try to persuade people, but we are well known to God, and I hope we are well known to your consciences too.
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Originally posted by colbe
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
reply to post by colbe
Maybe, you think redemption and justification have the same meaning.
And it doesn't help those non-Catholic Christians who try to sell the heresy of "imputation." The "Jesus did it all on the cross, your sins are forgiven, you are in, you're justified." The people who follow this heresy tell you Jesus in His perfection because man is completely depraved (a lie) covers all your sins in His perfection and perfect sacrifice on the Cross. Our Lord "imputes" His righteousness on you and you are justified.
Jesus opened Heaven, He redeemed mankind. Salvation, our justification is life long, we must "persevere to the end." So you are right, we battle sin our entire life. With the help of God's grace we can overcome our sinful nature. love,colbe
I do not see a distinction between redemption and the justification of. They are the same thing as they are attached at the hip. What is your problem with Pro-Testants, the boiling inferno you try to disreguard but is very in your face apparent to those of me observing with binocular vision...
...This explains the murderous intent of nations upon nations to undo each other and be forgiven. Whatever the purpose, land, gold, people to convert explains it all. colbe, personal question; how would you describe sinful nature, how many times a week do you enter a confessional and what do you tell the Priest that you do not want your entire village to know (BTW your Priest is the biggest gossip EVER). Why dont you just in a prayerful manner talk to your maker directly? Have you ever been smacked by a Nuns Ruler, thats a trick question, it is at least 12 inches in length or 12 inches in length.edit on 1-5-2013 by vethumanbeing because: (no reason given)
colbe
Maybe, you think redemption and justification have the same meaning.
And it doesn't help those non-Catholic Christians who try to sell the heresy of "imputation." The "Jesus did it all on the cross, your sins are forgiven, you are in, you're justified." The people who follow this heresy tell you Jesus in His perfection because man is completely depraved (a lie) covers all your sins in His perfection and perfect sacrifice on the Cross. Our Lord "imputes" His righteousness on you and you are justified.
colbe
I keep posting at ATS, to share with my dear non-Catholic Christian brothers and sisters, very soon, there will be no more Protestantism or the Orthodox. God is going to unite Christianity, enlighten everyone, non-Christians too. There are so many disbelievers, agnostics and atheists on the forum, if only I could convince them of what prophecy is saying, at least, to take the time to read the daily messages from Heaven. Reading the messages from Heaven strengthens your faith and gives you hope besides revelation about the times. Who would know better than God?The things you say about the faith are not true, I wonder, were you baptized Catholic? Come home, you can, go make a good Confession and return to Sunday Mass and the Eucharist. Oh, the grace you will receive, you need God's presence now and for what is coming brother.
Priests do not reveal what is heard in the Confessional and actually, it is a charism, a priest doesn't remember. Jesus established Confession, He knows us best. We need to hear the words of absolution. And again, again, God's grace given in the Sacrament to help you follow Christ.
When there were many sisters (50 years ago), giving their lives to God and for young people as teachers, there were a few strict sisters so that is reason to give up the faith? No.
As far as the NT verses, I believe they have been tampered with obviously.
The virgin birth scene from where your quote from Luke 1 was taken was obviously fabricated, so the verse about fearing god would obviously have been fabricated as well.
The verse from Corinthians was written by Paul, and I don't think too highly of him.
Sorry to burst your little ego bubble.
Originally posted by colbe
jigger, everybody,
Why would I keep posting the messages from Heaven if they were too hard to understand?
God is all knowing and perfectly simple, amazing, part of what draws humanity to Him. The messages from Heaven are written for everyone to understand.
The messages from Heaven do not say God is going allow the world to go on as it is...
He is going to act.
You will have to decide if you wish to follow Him. No more, I'll believe as I wish and what ever my view of eternal life, takes place after I die.
For almost 15 years of my reading the messages from Heaven, Catholic and Protestant (not as explicit for a reason), state the Remnant is Roman Catholic. God wants everyone to believe the same so believe and prepare now. Do not wait until God shows you. This "awakening" is prophesied to happen when Communism comes again and the world is at its worst.
Bookmark ~ www.catholicbinder.com... and ft111.com...
Originally posted by colbe
reply to post by vethumanbeing
VHB,
I don't wish to discuss the faith with you any longer. I share what the Church teaches and you come back with more mocking.This is important so I will reply to one. The most Holy Eucharist is not "cannibalism." You accept, I hope,God can do anything. It is His plan to come to us this way. The Eucharist is supernatural. It is the RISENbody, blood, soul and divinity of Our Lord Jesus Christ.
God wants you, me, everyone to believe. And one day very soon, we all will.
You didn't reply, may I ask once more, were you baptized Roman Catholic? love,colbe
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Originally posted by colbe
reply to post by vethumanbeing
VHB,
I don't wish to discuss the faith with you any longer. I share what the Church teaches and you come back with more mocking.This is important so I will reply to one. The most Holy Eucharist is not "cannibalism." You accept, I hope,God can do anything. It is His plan to come to us this way. The Eucharist is supernatural. It is the RISENbody, blood, soul and divinity of Our Lord Jesus Christ.
God wants you, me, everyone to believe. And one day very soon, we all will.
You didn't reply, may I ask once more, were you baptized Roman Catholic? love,colbe
I am perfectly sincere and I am certain I learned the mocking from my Creator, God. You cannot tell me that eating the flesh and drinking the blood of Christ is not a form of cannibalism (EVEN IF METAPHORICALLY). The act of the You-Are-Christ is a spiritual representation of acceptance of the savior. My two eldest brothers were babtised, to what faith; never asked my Mother; I have a feeling she may have been confused as that is a Catholic tradition??. I was not babtized, why do I need to be? I must ask this as I am having this thoughtform run on with another thread and am puzzled. God has the power to destroy or reform its own creation; Satan. Why has God allowed Satan the reign to run roughshod over the human, and done nothing about righting its wrongs? Why would God put a human Child "Jesus" in what is ITS OWN responsiblily to correct, realign or reprogram its own creation (the human) as its parent? Rid the world of Satan instead by using its own omnipotent power. I do not understand why God allows this when it can simply destroy the sourse of the Evil. If you do not want to discuss faith with me; I suppose you have given up on me, perhaps you think I am not a believer in a creator, and there you would be wrong, however, I cannot abide religious community, the polarizing effect of it and its consequences. Jesus was never about the Catholic Church, the Babist, any of the many existing.edit on 4-5-2013 by vethumanbeing because: (no reason given)
Wait, what? When did I ever say that? I said it has been tampered with to make him look like more than just human. The virgin birth is illogical, meaning the only logical conclusion is that it was made up. And yes, most if not all has been rewritten/edited.
Logic tells me what to pick and choose, not bias.
And what gives you the authority to reject the bible as a whole?
God is holy, He did not teach you how to mockVHB. The Eucharist is higher, supernatural, it comes from God, it is God Himself. Don't think in a human way of understanding concerning the Eucharist.
There is "NO" fear in love, the NT makes that very clear. Filial fear is still fear, which love has none of. You keep dancing around the issue instead of facing it.
If you fear god, then your god is not love, which means you do not worship the god of the NT, because as it clearly says, there is no fear in love.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by colbe
God is holy, He did not teach you how to mockVHB. The Eucharist is higher, supernatural, it comes from God, it is God Himself. Don't think in a human way of understanding concerning the Eucharist.
If the nature of the Eucharist cannot be questioned by the human mind, then how is it that it can be known as truth by the human mind? That which cannot be questioned is that which cannot be ascertained.